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Senate "Race" Relations (was "U.S. Society and Black Men")

Discussion in 'Community' started by Jedi Merkurian , Aug 11, 2014.

  1. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    He actually gets paid to say this crap

    Even for Bill O'Reilly, this is bad


    He’s slipped under the radar while his Fox News colleagues steal the outraged limelight, but Bill O’Reilly is back with a bang.

    The O’Reilly Factor host was discussing Barack Obama’s backing of NBA star Lebron James’s “I can’t breathe T-shirt” - the last words spoken by Eric Garner while he was choked by an NYPD officer - with Martin Luther King III, Martin Luther King Jr’s oldest son.

    O’Reilly said he had no problem with Obama supporting the gesture but wanted more leadership from the president.

    So far, so sane.

    But then he suggested alternative T-shirts that black people might want to consider wearing, T-shirts bearing slogans like:

    • Don’t get pregnant at 14
    • Don’t abandon your children
    • Don’t allow your neighbourhoods into free-fire zones

    “That’s what the African-American community should have on their T-shirts,” he said. “Am I wrong?”

    http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/even-for-bill-oreilly-this-is-bad--xJ8SRjk_Yl
     
  2. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    And some Fox News watcher probably thinks he's brave for saying what 'every white person is thinking'. I dunno about the abandoned children bit and the neighborhood bit, but when I was in high school I knew of 7 girls that were pregnant: 5 were white and 2 were black. Now, that's not scientific or representative, buuuuut...the 'Pregnant at 14' trope doesn't really seem to be just a black woman thing as he seems to think.
     
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  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And even in the weirdass alternate universe where O'Reilly and his stereotypes live, black people would not deserve to be profiled and murdered by police officers foe the same behaviors (or lesser behaviors) than white people commit and get away with.
     
  4. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    Agreed. The really crappy thing about Eric Garner's death was what he was doing is a non-violent offense which is given a fine of up to $7,000 dollars and didn't require him to be arrested. So the, "He broke the law," crowd are really saying that his death was warranted for breaking the law. I know people want to be tough on crime, but isn't death a little excessive? even in the fevered imaginings of these fools? Same goes for Michael Brown but in the case of, "He broke the law previously," and? I don't think that these people are really thinking when they bring that up. Does his previous crimes warrant being shot 6 times? You, me, and pretty much everyone else commits at least 3 felonies a day. Oops. Guess we all need to be shot 6 times. Good thing our police officers have a barely working knowledge of the law.
     
  5. Souderwan

    Souderwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    This mother ****er.
     
  6. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    All valid questions, Noundy. Though I would add "don't provoke Police" and "don't sell untaxed cigarettes" to the list too. [face_flag]
     
  7. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    remember when you used to defend his "gaffes"? :p
     
  8. Souderwan

    Souderwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Hey, we've all defended our share of mother-****ers at one point or another.
     
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  9. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    you're just trying to distract me from your indiscretions by bringing up my own. quit Stalin' ;)
     
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  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Just to be clear, there isn't really any evidence that Garner was even selling cigarettes and he disputed it before he was murdered.
     
  11. wall of sick

    wall of sick Jedi Padawan star 3

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    it's a stupidass law anyways. what is with all these stupidass laws?
     
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  12. Fire_Ice_Death

    Fire_Ice_Death Force Ghost star 7

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    Jeezy Creezy that's ridiculous. But no, it was totally his fault he had asthma and died. Everyone needs to be in perfect health at all times for if the police want to choke you for 'resisting' arrest.
     
  13. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    That O'Reilly tho...


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  14. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It is clearly not a law that the police should actively be trying to enforce. There are things that require their attention more urgently than one guy selling loose cigarettes. If he even was, how much could he have been clearing?
     
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  15. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    If I marked up 50% everytime some bastard at work has bummed off me, I could retire.
     
  16. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Isn't he trolling 99% of the time though?
     
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  17. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Force Ghost star 8

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    He's not trolling, he's pandering.
     
  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    And the other 1 percent of the time, he's getting interviewed by Jon Stewart.
     
  19. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  20. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I did some digging on Cleveland. Not sure if this was discussed here earlier, but I didn't see it.

    This is another case from Cleveland. This was in 2012 and involved two black residents, a man and a woman, Timothy Russell and Malissa Williams:
    The two drove past a police officer, who thought he heard a shot ring out from the car. He gave chase and ordered backup. The chase ended in a school parking lot. Surrounded by officers, Russell and Williams were killed by more than 137 rounds fired by 13 different police officers. One officer expended 32 rounds himself, reloaded a third clip, and then jumped on the hood of of the car and fired through the windshield and into the cab.
    Tim Russell and Malissa Williams were unarmed. Their car had backfired.

    Six police officers were later indicted in the case and the families of Russell and Williams were awarded $3 million dollars for their loss.

    Here's some links:

    http://wosu.org/2012/news/2014/06/02/six-indicted-cleveland-chase-ended-137-shots-2-dead/

    http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2014/11/judge_approves_settlement_reac.html
     
  21. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    That is really sad and screwed up.
     
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  22. Healer_Leona

    Healer_Leona Squirrel Wrangler of Fun & Games star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    jesus*******christ
     
  23. I Are The Internets

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  24. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, any response I have would either earn me a ban for language or be illegible due to all the asterixes.
     
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  25. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost star 6

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