Speculation Understanding the Fan Dynamics of Star Wars Going Into the Sequel Trilogy

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Kyris Cavisek, Dec 11, 2012.

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What category do you fall in?

1/2. Original Trilogy Fan/Remastered Fan 34 vote(s) 79.1%
3. Prequel Trilogy Fan 15 vote(s) 34.9%
4. EU Fan 12 vote(s) 27.9%
5. TCW Fan 7 vote(s) 16.3%
6. Random Movie Goer (I don't like Star Wars, I don't know why I am here) 1 vote(s) 2.3%
7. Hearththrobber (I will sit through a galactic epic if it means I get to see a half naked man) 0 vote(s) 0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Jan 5, 2011
    star 5
    You aren't looking deeper into the fanbase, you're looking at stereotypes of fans. Then you're trying to take those stereotypes and assign stereotypical and superficial desires to them.

    You're not just segregating fans into groups, you're also generalizing those groups in the shallowest (and sometimes quite stupid) ways as well.

    -shrugs-
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  2. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

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    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    I can agree with that. I enjoy the PT for what they are, are there things I wished changed, at times. But it isn't mine, it is George Lucas's (now Disney's). I can voice my opinion like everyone else. I would like to see us come to a census to what point the EU should have influence. There will be people that will say as doctrine or not at all, but chances are it will be an influence in the history between 6 and 7, possibly giving characters nothing more
  3. Pro Scoundrel Chosen One

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    Nov 20, 2012
    star 4
    As long as the movies are good then I'm ok with them including or excluding almost anything. I have my preferences, of course, but I'll gladly overlook them for a quality trilogy.
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  4. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    But in people saying, hey I am not this, I am that and this and this other thing. I understand the fanbase better. However, the problem I have is that we are all REALLY BIG Star Wars fans, we are talking about the movies years before they have been shot cast or released. We are grasping at straws. I want to get into the thought process of the not so big Star Wars fan that don't hang out on forums, but enjoy the films and will see it opening weekend probably... What do they want?
  5. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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    Jan 5, 2011
    star 5
    Do you think you'll find that here?
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  6. Darth Chiznuk PT Trivia Master / Game Host

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    Oct 31, 2012
    star 5
    Who knows? They're not on the forums to offer an opinion.
  7. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    I know, I have been talking to some of my friends who like star wars, they seem to expect Luke Han and Leia to be in it in starring roles, picking up directly following Episode 6, others think they shouldn't be in it at all. One got excited because he thought Vader should come back from the dead like the one rumor had... I accept those opinions however don't necessarilly like them... Three of them were just like give me space battles and saber fights
  8. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Mar 4, 2011
    star 7
    I love you.

    I don't have anything to add to this post other than the point of stereotyping is to segregate people into categories; if the point of the OP were really to say that "we're all Star Wars fans," the question would be "What do you want to see in Episode VII?" and the thread could then be integrated into all the other prediction threads around here.

    I hate stereotypes so much that I am tempted to defy them for the hell of it, but that would be conforming to nonconformity.
  9. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

    Chapter Rep
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    Oct 3, 2003
    star 8
    I love the OT and enjoy the PT and TCW. I like some parts of the EU but am not an avid follower and don't consider all of it sacred material. If the movies want to change it, they will do so and I will accept it so long as the movies don't contradict each other (which is one of my problems with the PT).

    We all have ideas how things should be done, but the films are Lucas's vision and we should respect what he wants them to be rather than hoping it is the way we want.
  10. V-2 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Dec 10, 2012
    star 4
    A well written extravagant science fantasy film that they can enjoy with their friends and families, with all the Star Wars tropes and trimmings.

    It's a good bet that they couldn't care less about trivialities of the EU, Mandalorians, or if a 3 eyed alien's hands are too big, etc.
  11. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Jan 5, 2011
    star 5
    I know.
    :*
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  12. Lando's Little Maneuver Jedi Master

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    Nov 26, 2012
    star 2
    If I were writing the script I honestly wouldn't give a toss what the fans want, I would just try to write the best script I could while trying to keep true to the source material.
    When you start to pander to what people want, things tend to fall apart, too many cooks spoiling the broth and all that.
    You're better to give the fans something they didn't even know they wanted, it's a much more difficult mountain to scale, but the result are always better.
  13. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    I like that thought, not to mention, Ardnt created some really awesome characters in Toy Story 3 to join the fan favorites from the franchise. However, if I were Ardnt and Lucas's treatment says "Skywalker Child does XXX" I might utilize wookieepedia to see if Luke has a kid anywhere
  14. LunarMoth Force Ghost

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    Nov 27, 2012
    star 4
    I second that!
  15. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    Many people fall into many different categories
  16. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Aug 19, 2003
    star 7
  17. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    I don't and I won't. I feel that analysis of different subcultures within the Star Wars community is important to understand what we will recieve for the Sequel Trilogy. However, I will admit that there is alot of resistance to this thread and it isnt my best. I have no problem saying that I am an OT fan first, with EU second, PT third, and have a tolerance for TCW. Stand up and be counted. May I just ask, How are you a Force Ghost?
    Last edited by Kyris Cavisek, Dec 11, 2012
  18. LunarMoth Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 27, 2012
    star 4
    Sure, but this list doesnt cover the basics.
  19. Kyris Cavisek Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Nov 12, 2012
    star 4
    I should have included a Film Purist, who Love star wars but hate anything outside the movies and see anything else as fan fic, then we got Saga fans...
  20. JackG Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Aug 15, 2011
    star 4
    I don't like being put in to categories.
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  21. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    Nov 20, 2012
    star 7
    What if I like everything? What then?
  22. Valairy Scot Chosen One

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    Sep 16, 2005
    star 5
    How about STAR WARS fan? I saw the OT in theaters, 70mm and 35mm. Still like 'em. Guess what, I like the SE. I like the PT. I like TCW. I like the early EU.
    Last edited by Valairy Scot, Dec 11, 2012
  23. LunarMoth Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 27, 2012
    star 4
    I guess I should put my cards on the table here:

    I grew up on OT.
    Liked the Special Editions.
    Liked the PT.
    Like the Clone Wars
    Like some of the EU stuff although I'll fully admit that I have only read a couple of the books.

    My opinion of whats "real" and whats not:

    I kinda feel like the movies are their own thing. When speculating as to what might come in a Sequel Trilogy, I can only consider what is in the previous films. This is because thats all there is to go on in continuing the story beening told by the films. Obviouly I am aware that the EU exists, but lets take Chewies death as an example. If the ST starts, and Chewie is dead because he died in EU content, how does the general audience know this? Sure they could include it in the opening crawl, or in some exposition in dialogue, but I would think that was just poor writing. Thats not to say that if a choice was made not to include Chewie for some reason, that they couldnt leave him out, but if he was not in the ST, I dont think it HAS to be because he died in the EU.

    I have always looked at the EU as "What ifs" or someting for people who just wanted more. I have enjoyed some of the things I have read, but never did I take it as gospel that Leia was making out with some lizardy mob boss while out looking for Han between Empire and Jedi. What I took it as was a cool story about a time not seen in the movies. A creative "What if".

    But thats just me. (And I understand that.)
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  24. lord_eidolon Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Feb 2, 2004
    star 3
    I can't vote, because I don't see option 8:

    Star Wars fan. Loves everything SW.
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  25. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Jul 2, 2004
    star 7
    What is a "hearth throbber"?

    Someone who throbs inside the fireplace?
    Last edited by Arawn_Fenn, Dec 11, 2012