"Unknown Soldier: The Story of General Grievous" & "Lord of War" by Abel & Joe (SWI #86)

Grand Moff Grand Moff Grand Moff!

Those Kaleesh are not beautiful creatures, are they?

 

Oogley. Wait till you see the New EG to Aliens.

 

"A Limerick for Grievous"
By Kudzu

Qymaen jai Sheelal was a warlord
Whose manner and tactics were forward
His face was not pretty
And by the end of this ditty
He'd been changed into an evil cyborg

 

I was wondering if anybody has gotten there star wars insider issue late or not at all becuse I have been to several book stores in the scottsdale area and they have not gotten it in yet. Heck, it's the 16th and I was at a store a couple days ago and they still did not have it.

 

Bravo Kudzu!

You also get a for rhyming "cyborg" so unconventionally.

 

Hey, Halagad could you tell us alittle about what Grevious was like Pre-Psycho surgery?

 

While subscribers are getting Insider #86 already, it's not supposed to be on newsstands until the 23rd, I believe.

That fact notwithstanding, I found a rack-full of 86s at my local Barnes & Noble today.

 

I've seen them around town here already, picked up a few extra at the grocery store today. I'll be selling them through my website store this weekend (autographed if you're interested).

 

I'd say there are more or less three distinct phases of Grievous' life: pre- and par-Ronderu (noble stage), post-Ronderu (savage warlord), and post-cyborg (unfeeling monster).

Here are some terms used to describe Qymaen from both Story of Grievous articles:

"A brilliant but barbaric man."

"[Qymaen] had a sharp mind and a knack for marksmanship."

"Despite pride, deadliness and a burgeoning racial intolerance, Grievous was at one time a noble figure." (Interestingly, this was also altered from the original, where I simply called Qymaen a racist. This was excised completely from Unknown Soldier, and modified into the current description you see here for Lord of War).

"If Grievous was a ruthless military commander before, as a cyborg he became genuinely soulless."

"the Huk War that raged unabated throughout his life gutted what was left of his empathy."

The origins of Grievous' racism (he deprecates Ugnaughts and Wookiees in different sources simply for being of their respective race) are understandable if not justified: the Yam'rii, foreigners, had been enslaving and killing his people since before he could remember.

Pre-cyborg Grievy was definitely a passionate individual: it was his anger at the Huks as a boy that led him to become a freedom fighter, and his actions suggest that he probably cared pretty deeply about Ronderu.

Take care,
Abel

 

"A Limerick for Kalee"
By Kudzu

On Kalee they hunted the mumuus
Their weapons did give them great boo-boos
With Lig swords and spears
They drove them to tears
Until Huks came and cried, "We'll shoot you!"

 

Don't know if anyone has asked this yet, but any chance we'll ever learn about any of the Grievous' many children?

JD.

 

I hope some day someone writes a novel(s) pertaining to Sheelal and the Huk Wars.

 

Mara Jade, Ken, Shira Brie...am I forgetting anyone?

Three down, twenty-seven to go.

 

Ken?

OMIGOD

GRIEVOUS = TRICLOPS!!!111

 

I believe so. I think there are actually two of them.

Good luck with that Valin! Those guys are actually really cool looking. I'm a sucker for dark/shadow troopers. Then again, isn't everybody?

Thanks. Yeah, I remember those early classes, what a nightmare. Modern French philosophy at 9 in the morning? Pain....

Take care,
Abel

 

Ray Park's voice, maybe.

 

Halagad this is pure speculation and only tangentially related to Grevious but could you tell us who you think were the best Generals of the Clone Wars?

 

Abel & Joe, thanks for the great amount of detail you put into these works. This is the kind of effort that's going to keep fans interested in Star Wars long after Episode III's release.

Is the thread link you posted the best place on the official site to convey our appreciation? I looked around for a feedback e-mail or comment submission page, but couldn't find either. Any other suggestions?

danielc56

 

You know, I hadn't event thought of that. I guess these things get embedded in your brain after watching a movie a gajillion times. Strange.

Am I the one who gets to say it?

Ahhhem:

"But it was so artistically done..."

That was Joe... sneaky saboteur.

Ooh, neat idea. I think we do get a hint of the species in one the Thrawn Trilogy sourcebooks. They're out in the Unknown Regions.

Also an interesting idea.

I definitely don't think Grievous ever fit into the hierarchy beneath Tann, that's for certain. I think Grievous was still in "developing experiment" status while Tann had her day in the sun. That isn't to say she wasn't capable. In fact, there might have been the threat that, oh Tann's doing such a fine job, do we really need this Grievous character? Then of course, she got iced and that was that. San Hill might've even had a hand in that somehow.

Other than Wayland, just Utapau. The Geonosis thing is a mistake that's contradicted within the same article. I'm actually going to see if I can get one of the StarWars.com folks to fix that.

Situation normal... everything's perfectly alright now, we're all fine here now thank you.

 

I asked you earlier about Quarmall, to which you replied "Heh, heh, heh..." So, I looked the name up on tf.n's unofficial encyclopedia. The Quarmall that came up had such an extremely different backstory that I'm assuming that their two different characters, or that the older one is from a noncanonical source.

 

Thanks daniel, that means a lot. Joe and I are both huge Star Wars fans, obviously, and the effort we put into our work tends to reflect that. We hope to keep Star Wars going as long as we can.

Now that you mention it, the VIP free-for-all thread is probably the best place, since Sue Rostoni and the StarWars.com folks regularly hang out there. If you even just cut and pasted your short message above, that would be terrific.

Thanks for your sincere appreciation and effort, daniel!

Take care,
Abel

 

Boy, when you put it that way I sound like a total jerk.

Good ol' Bob V. I'd say what's written in the CUSWE is a summation of one possible interpretation of Quarmall's story, and obviously the POV taken there has been canonically closed off.

Anyone have Gamemaster Screen for Second Edition?

 

Halagad_Ventor: Ooh, neat idea. I think we do get a hint of the species in one the Thrawn Trilogy sourcebooks. They're out in the Unknown Regions.

UR41-284? Thrawn just levels a 70km radius around the museum district to take out the main "village cluster" and punish the disobedient natives, except that he leaves the museum district (and its art!) intact. It's implied they're pretty primitive, too...

Is that "destroying a world"? Does he even need to, in those circumstances?

... and for what it's worth, that entire little story box suggests a surprising level of detailed knowledge of Imperial activities in the UR on the part of New Republic authorities. I'm tempted to dismiss it as propaganda or misinformation...



So, yes, Virginia, there's a chance it was the Kaleesh...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Remember Admiral Krennel used to be in Thrawns' task force. Also one of karrde's people had his world conquered in TLC.

Even during Thrawn's height they weren't completely lacking information.

Voren Naal was a historian, not a propagandist.