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I wouldn't like it. I like seeing the relationship between force-sensitives and muggles.

 

Chris Lee as The Emperor in the OT. Hmm, you could be on to something there!

 

Some jurisdictions, it isn't black and white.

Some places, "self defence" is viable, but if the police feel like it, they can decide you used "unreasonable force" - especially for martial artists or boxers (for whom a single punch to stop a crim, might actually take 'em out).

But we are getting away from the thread subject: The Rebel Alliance was not a legitimate force, though it may have been in some places around the galaxy, where various planets joined it.

 

So because they don't follow the rules of military conduct, the Alliance is a mess? Luke being given command bothers you, but not Han and Lando who had a higher rank than Luke?

Padme was a diplomat. Leia was a soldier.

Tarkin, Vader and Palpatine would disagree.

No rebellion is legitimately authorized. It's been that way for years. They only become that way after the fact.

 

Darth Simister, what you said, was what I was trying to explain to Rellum.

 

Given my opinion about Luke in this context, my opinion of Han and Lando also being granted rank is obvious to the point I didn't even find it worth mentioning.

And as I said, I could see the Alliance not strictly following rules of military conduct by being open to volunteers, I could even see the possibility that one of these volunteers could eventually rise up and be in a position of rank. But so soon after Luke joined them did be become essentially the most crucial element of their pilot corps and was able to give commands to other pilots, which indeed makes me question just how formidable of a fighting force they are. Because in any respectable legitimate military that would simply just not happen, no matter how good that particular volunteer soldier is.

If Leia was a soldier than she still should have acted more diplomatically than like a spoiled brat.

While perhaps not entirely legitimate in the manner that nations have standing armies in today's world, being that there were mercenary elements within the Rebel Alliance, the majority of it was still comprised of legitimate governmental, official, whatever you want to call it elements to consider it so, as opposed to say an insurgency like we have also seen in today's world.

 

My bold, I don't remember that, can you be a bit more specific?

Can you give examples?

My bold, can you give examples? I am not certain what you talk about

 

Luke blowing up the Death Star
Leia chewing out Han and Luke
Mercenary elements being guys like Luke and Han (mercenary as a description, not in the literal sense)
Official government being the Royal Award Ceremony

 

How do that make him "essentially the most crucial element of their pilot corps"?

Why do that make her act as a spoiled brat?

Are we talking about the medal presentation ceremony at the end of A new hope? If so: huh, I did not know it was called Royal Award Ceremony.

 

I'm done with the nitpicking. Just read my previous posts on this thread. This is a thread for unpopular opinions, there are no objectively right or wrong ones and its all based on one's own individual perspective.

 

This is a thread for unpopular opinions, there are no objectively right or wrong ones and its all based on one's own individual perspective.
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got to admit I was thinking this too

it's turned into "you're wrong to have this unpopular opinion" which to say the least is ironic to debate about.

 

I am not trying to nitpick or saying that your opinions are wrong, I am just trying know what you mean. And the simplest way of doing that is to ask questions, so that is what I do.

 

I find it very odd that most here seem to find it inconceivable that some see Leia as bratty, particularly in SW.

*Edited for clarity.

 

I can understand bratty but I have problem grasping the "spoiled" part

 

Likely linked reasons of the fact she shows Tarkin and Vader *zero* manners.

 

That's spoiled? I thought the term for that kind of manner was spirited, or something similar

 

People don't always associate the same term the same way, Gamiel.

 

Here's an unpopular opinion I usually bring up at work about world events, that could definitely apply here. I say the following because I'm retired Air Force and have seen a lot over the years. During a war both sides think they are the good guys. It really just depends which side you are on. What if the Empire are the good guys and the rebels are the bad guys? If you look at world history there are many times where there were rebellions. Think of George Washington. By today's standards he would actually be considered a terrorist. In Star Wars even though the Rebellion thought of themselves as the good guys they did kill many people who were not so called bad guys.

 

Hmmm...to me, if you participated in an one-sided war or a controversial bombardment, you're a terrorist and I don't care if the international community supported it. Same goes for GFFA.

 

Unpopular opinion: I enjoyed the last bits of the first Force Unleashed story. Thought it was decent.

 

There's three years between ANH and TESB. In that interim, Luke had enough time to earn his rank of Commander and to become Rogue Leader. There were many missions wherein Luke proved himself over and over. Han had done the same with his tenure in the Alliance between the first two films. Given his experience and his valor in keeping Leia safe, he had earned his rank. Also, take note that Leia doesn't think that anyone was crazy enough to lead the strike team which is why she's surprised to find out that it was Han. Likewise, Han is surprised that Lando was given a promotion and he himself feels a bit surprised at that.

Why would Leia act diplomatically when she's being held captive and will be tortured and executed for her crimes? Why would she be pleasant? Many soldiers that have been captured have behaved far worse than she has.

Lucas based the conflict on historic wars such as the American Revolution, the American Civil War, the Vietnam War, the various conflicts within Rome and even the Napoleonic Wars.

He was the only one left. Everyone else was dead, that's why there were only about three fighters leaving with the Falcon. Biggs trusted Luke and so did Wedge.

Because they're a couple of **** ups who didn't have a plan. Even Han admits as much.

LUKE: "There isn't any other way out."

HAN: "I can't hold them off forever! Now what?"

LEIA: "This is some rescue. When you came in here, didn't you have a plan for getting out?"

HAN: "He's the brains, sweetheart."

LUKE: "Well, I didn't."

To Leia it was like dealing with the Marx brothers. How that makes her a brat is beyond me, considering Han also trashes Luke.

Han was the mercenary. Luke was Obi-wan's Padawan Learner who was doing it because it was the right thing. And mind you, Han changes his tune.

LEIA: "Hey, I knew there was more to you than money."

What?

 

The implications behind it. There being a Royal Award Ceremony put on by governing officials and with a standing army in attendance indicates the presence of an official governmental type body behind the Rebel Alliance.

 

Just saw something funny. I'm watching Lego Star Wars: Yoda Chronicles and they made a reference to Leia's attitude. Basically they're running from an Imperial assault, Leia is chewing them out again, Han turns and says "Ya know you really should be nicer to people who are trying to save you!" I thought it was funny and a pretty specific reference.

 

I love Lego Star Wars: Yoda Chronicles!

the only thing "star wars tv" I can abide to watch

was that just another unpopular opinion I just admitted?