Up for Debate: Comparative Justice

The United Nations named Sudan to the chair of the Human Rights commission, and yet, the world is in a huge uproar about maltreatment of prisoners at the hands of the United States.

Right.

Here's a nice, long list of violations by Sudan as reported by Amnesty International.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAFR540362003

This is also nice:
CAIRO, Egypt ? Sudan is waging a bloody campaign of "ethnic cleansing" in the western Darfur region, killing thousands of people and driving more than one million more from their homes by bombing villages, shooting men and raping women, a prominent human-rights group said Friday.

Human Rights Watch, based in New York, called on the UN Security Council, scheduled to meet Friday on the Darfur situation, to step in to help stop the bloodshed and look for evidence of crimes against humanity.

Sudan's government has denied supporting the janjaweed militia, which it said is defending itself against autonomy-seeking rebels. Ahmed al-Mufti, the head of Sudan's government human-rights organization in Khartoum, said Thursday he would not comment on the Human Rights Watch report.

But Human Rights Watch said the government not only supports the janjaweed ? providing salaries, ammunition and satellite telephones ? but actually created it.

For Debate: If the United States, Israel, or Britain doesn't do it, then it's not wrong.

Sub-Debate: The action that the United States delegates took at the UN convention were perfectly acceptable:
After the African Group submitted Sudan for re-election to another two-year term, the representative of the United States traded harsh words with the Sudanese representative and the US delegation excused itself and walked out.

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First: I don't recall anyone saying that what's going on Sudan is 'right'.

Second: I don't see Sudan saying it's a bastion of human rights and democracy while occupying a soveriegn state. As abhorrent as what's going on in Sudan, it has absolutely nothing to do with what's going on in Iraq. As Tony Blair said: 'We went to Iraq to stop this kind of thing happening; not to do it ourselves.'

 

The 'others do it too' excuse simply won't wash.

 

It's funny or sad that the one nation of people that NEEDS our help isn't getting it. It seems like we would have learned from Rwanda. I'm completely SICKENED by the Bush administrations lack of response on this issue. They NEED us and we're wasting our time on a country that doesn't want our help.

It's sad that Washington is so full of idiots on both sides, Democrats and Republicans.