Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?

Greetings all;

First time poster, long time lurker

With the all the upcoming SW content due out in the next year or so, I figured now was a good a time as any to start posting. My first question though has to deal with the upcoming Clone Wars series. In short, what's going to be the difference between it, and the previously released Clone Wars series that was a cartoon? I mean, I have both DVD's of the Clone Wars cartoons at home.

So why make another?


Is the story going to be that drastically different?

 

Yes, yes it will.

It's going to have like a movie plot, that follows most of the story I'm guessing. CW I and II was mainly just Jedi on planets kicking ***.

It's going to be amazing, and just by the looks of it pure eye candy for SW fans.

 

The previous Clone Wars series were twenty 3-minute shorts and five 12-minute shorts, made in 2D style. They were pretty much just action sequences.

The new series will be full 22-minute episodes in 3D style. Given the longer run time, you can expect proper storylines and characterization.

 

A lot of the show will have 22 min. episodes that focus solely on characters that didn't get any previous focus in the movies or in the old cartoon, like Kit Fisto, and sometimes episodes will just be about clone troopers and no one else. Things like that.

The previous animated short was rather rushed I guess you could say, and this one will be a lot more in depth with regards to plotlines and character interactions, and give us more insight into the war overall.

Three years of war is a lot to tell, and I'm a little sad that they aren't going back to the very beginning of the war right after episode 2 ends, and taking it all the way through, right up until the beginning of 3. Oh well.

I'm excited.

 

Interesting point. What happens if the series goes 5 years or so?

 

Well that's exactly what George is committed to doing. They're already working on scripts for Season 3 right now and the last time he said anything, they were already done with a number of the Season 2 episodes.

 

Welcome to the forums, Brendukoo. It's good to have you with us. So...


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compared to

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Being a visually driven person, the above is the first thing that gets my blood boiling with excitement.

 

New characters, longer screentime, more depth and story. Beautiful animation.

Really, George is already working on a third season of CW?! Oh man, I'm so happy to hear that. I really thought it would be just a one season thing, like a little side project like CW I and II. I didn't doubt the successfulness of the show, but rather Lucas's commitment.

 

One things keep nagging about this thing (aside from the padawan thing). Anakin is shown with the scar (which we know he got in DoR) which woujld suggest the story takes place after DoR BUT the clones we see here are in Phase I armour while those in DoR were in Phase II armor. It's not a very big continuity error and we can probably retcon it but...I hate the thought of having to retcon something (no matter how many retcons have been done, I still hate the need for them).

 

Another example of EU getting mixed up with itself.

 

Yeah, I suppose there is a difference.

I personally thought the old cartoons/DVD's, other than the fact that the animation was a little so-so were actually really good. A lot of you say that it was "just action scenes".

Well there were quite a few, but we're talking about a war here are we not? It also gave us the chance to first see the true power of a jedi that they couldn't pull off in live action. (i.e. Yoda taking down ships using the force, or Mace beating down 100's of droids at once)

Plus, there was a ton of character development and scenes. Such as how 3-PO got his gold coating. Or how Anakin goes through the Knight trials. We also see a lot of interaction between Anakin and Obi-wan in "ordinary" situations which was nice. Like the scene where we see Anakin, "feeding off the living force". I thought that was brilliant.

I just hope the new series/movie brings more to the table, and isn't just a re-hash in prettier form.

 

I hope the story is good, cause I despise the art style...anorexic avatars....eesh.

I truly hope, even though it's animated, they attempt to keep it in the realm of "realism".

The cartoon got a little too "Samurai Jack" overboard at times.

 

Yeah, it was on one of the many articles and interviews that popped up around the time of ShoWest. I couldn't find it if I tried, but he mentioned that, along with being committed to 5 seasons. He's mentioned working on Season 3 here, but it's not the same article I saw where he also mentioned being done with some of the season 2 episodes.

http://entertainmentnow.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/george-lucas-star-wars-the-clone-wars-interview/

And JediMarine, the show is keeping with film style physics. That's my only complaint with the original, and it was a big complaint at that.

 

In the article you linked to above, WW, Lucas is quoted as saying: "The TV series is exactly like the movies, exactly. I mean, you can see it in the clip. It?s basically just the movies only with cartoon characters."

This could definitely indicate that he wants to keep it real.

 

Well, my biggest thing will be is that the Clone Wars is the perfect canvass to tell the kinds of stories that he couldn't do in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. So die hard eu loving fans ain't going to like this too much. Jst read the gizmundo site where they got the trailer up and you'll see the negative respone.

GT style was critized by many die hard fans. If you notice I said die hards. The average kid really liked it in fact after GT was shafted with 3 minutes for 19 episodes, 1 five minute episode and 5 twelve minute epiosdes, the series did fantastically well with numerous Emmy and Annie nominations and victories, not to mention the success that it brought to the carton network, GT, and GL's galaxy, plus it did help GL decide that the animated series that he was doing was going to be in "The Clone Wars Era"! Now flash forward to Dark Horses Clone War Adventure books volume 1-10. Their have the same 2-d style art, exaggerated, with the bright colors and now even thoughs are being nominted for an Eisner award for Best Children books and have sold extremelly well for Dark Horse, accroding to Jeremy Barlow.

Now, this new series has its work cut out. This series will have to prove that it is way better than anything that was done before. With the movie release and tv release, these have to score well with the box office and tv ratings, get nomintaed and win some of the industry awards (Oscar,Emmy, and Annie) and do very well with fans. That is a tall order to follow.

The good news though is that unlike the previous series, this one is made accessebile to everyone, and one way or another a lot of people will see the Clone Wars. Whoever thought about the movie release was a smart person, cause that alone will bring in many fans, plus the release of tie-products like ROTS.

I'm excited becuase perosnally, in the end, the best era regardless will be the Clone Wars. Think about it, it has been covered in the movies, novels, comic books, video games, toys, short stories, 2-d animation and now 3-d animation with many more coming. No other era will have that kind of diversification and success. Not Legacy, not post NJO, nor the vaunted KOTOR era. The Clone Wars! The sad part is like I said before, many die hard eu loving Legacy, Rebellion, Dark Times, KOTOR, del rey hating fans are going to be against this.

 

I was actually quite suprised Anakin had his scar in CW at all. George loves to show the fans how certain things happened, and although it was covered in the comics and books, I wouldn't have been suprised if we saw him get it on screen.

 

Sorry what is DoR, and where is it in the CW time line?

 

I believe Garak was referring to a particular episode in the original Tartakovsky CW series. Anakin receives the scar above his eye in one of the earlier episodes in the second season of those cartoons. But I'm not actually sure what "DoR" is, exactly. I had assumed it was an episode name, but I don't think they were actually given individual names now that I think about it. (?)

 

He was referring to Republic #71 - The Dreadnaughts of Rendili, the comic in which Anakin gets his scar from Ventress.

 

This series will be night and day when compared to Gennedy. George already said somewhere that the 2D thing was "a test subject" or a practice run or something. The whole thing was probably really about selling the Cartoon Network toys or getting kids to watch cartoon network. And I think that's okay, even though it felt like a toy commercial. It was all action and very little substance, just like Samurai Jack, which I liked for what it was.

Candy. Not a meal.

Here's the primary reason why I think anything that happened in the 2D series is simply not worth the time and importance the continuity buffs are putting on it.

George had nothing to do with it at creation.

George Lucas created Star Wars and he's doing it the way it should be done... NOW. Gennedy says somewhere he made Star Wars 2.3 or something, but how is that possible without George Lucas' involvement? Saying the Genndy thing counts it like saying, well... really good fan fiction should count too. Even though it was on tv and it got all sorts of awards, who cares... George Lucas didn't create it. That means it doesn't count in the George Lucas canon, so it is the expanded universe.

The new Clone Wars CG series is true Star Wars because George Lucas is creating it.... not just approving it after the fact.

 

To me there's something about the feel of it... I mean, you can't really measure Lucas's involvement, but the CG series is created by Lucasfilm, and the GT series wasn't. Nothing against the GT shows-- I haven't seen many of them-- but this new show seems to have more heft to it. A feature-length narrative was beyond the scope of the 2-D show.

Weren't there continuity clashes between the GT show and some EU novels anyhow?

 

100% agree with you on that one, thank you.