Keep in mind that I'm posting on my own behalf, and not discussing the situation of the rest of the MS at all. As far as the other JCC mods go, I'm pretty sure everybody else isn't facing the same problem that I was, since they were all pretty much entrenched in the community before we chose them, and that was in fact some of the rationale behind choosing them. So this was just an issue with me. I can't speak to what the MS spoke about or debated about when they promoted me, because mods aren't allowed to see the MS discussion about their own promotion. I can speak, however, to why I took the job, but I think that'd be better suited to PM, since it doesn't really fit the topic here. If you want to discuss my spot in MS and whether you (or the community as a whole) thinks that I should be gone, I'm more than willing to do that, but we should do so through discussions involving 506, you, and me, and probably not in this thread. I do want to address your points about me though, as they pertain to the subject. As I was saying before, a unique problem that I face is that I wasn't fully entrenched in the JCC community upon promotion. This isn't the case with many mods, but it's what happened to me. As such, I faced some challenges around getting involved on a community level, and getting involved on a mod level at the same time. I don't struggle with this as much any more, I'd say that I'm a member of the community now, but it's something that I had to deal with. Because of this, I agree with you, Malkie, 100%. Being a mod is a responsibility that one earns through continued forum contributions, and it should be an honor to represent fellow posters, and to help shape the community as a whole, and we should make sure to promote from within communities, to make that transition easier and far more natural. You're absolutely correct. My point about the abstractness of the whole deal was that it's not something we can simply make a blanket policy for, because every forum is different, and there's so many different measuring sticks. Being a member of the community in the JCC looks drastically different than being a member in the Senate, or any where else, and it looks different for each mod within each community. Every user fits into the community in a different way, and because of that, this seems to me to be something that has to be regulated through the individual mod, and watched by the admin team. Each mod should be re-evaluating themselves regularly, and the admin team should be making sure that is happening, and making sure (as best they can) to be in touch with what users are feeling concerning that, but beyond that I don't think we should make any additional rules, because it varies from mod to mod and forum to forum so much.