I am tired of reading the Pro-war rally in this board I think bush is not going to back down, and there will be a war without the UN resolution. What I think will be interesting is the aftermath... While I have no doubts US will win, I predict a backlash against the Iraq war, much the same like Vietnam. BTW, I was watching cowboy movies last night ( there is nothing else on), and can't help to think that the parody they portrayed for bush ( AKA cowboy diplomacy) rings true bell. In fact, I can used the parody to some of the poster in this board... Scary, actually... JFT: I will take your word that there will be only 3,000 civilians killed.