Saga Usage of the Force...

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  1. darthbarracuda Jedi Grand Master

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    So I recently watched the latest Clone Wars episode, where the Jedi Younglings are attacked by Hondo and his pirates.

    When Ahsoka attacks the pirates, she force pushes a bunch of them into the wall where they pass out. Then she, for no apparent reason, takes out her lightsabers and prepares to fight hondo. What, is her force energy "depleted"? Why can't she just force push the rest of them into a wall and knock them out?

    This is not the only time this has happened.
  2. thesevegetables Jedi Grand Master

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    The Force does appear to require "recharging", or something - for example, there used to be a basic game on starwars.com. Anakin vs. Ventress. You could use Force push for Anakin and lightning for Ventress, but you could not do it whenever you wanted to - there was a bar with Force power on it, which went to zero when you used push/lightning and filled up as time passed.
  3. Sitara Force Ghost

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    The EU doesn't make sense most of the time, so don't try to make sense of it.

    Nothing in the movies tells us that the Force requires 'recharging'. In fact, the concept is ridiculous. However, prolonged or heavy usage of the Force can be tiring; we see this in ESB and ATOC (Yoda and Tyranus respectively)
  4. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    Soo, it's tiring, but you don't need to take breaks from using it? Got it. :p
  5. Darth_Nub Saga, Classic Trilogy and Film Music Manager

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    I think he meant that although the Force itself doesn't require 'recharging', it can wear out the vessel/user it's being channelled through, much like a fuse.

    As far as the scenario put forward in the original post is concerned, I would imagine that certain Force abilities need more time & concentration to perform than others, even though it might only be seconds.
  6. kainee Jedi Master

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    Well I always interpret it as requiring mental focus at the very least with some of the more advanced stuff requiring physical stamina. Considering the fact that we normal humans can't even focus on something for a prolonged period of time without tiring, I would say it seems logical for this to occur even when using psychic powers.
  7. leehashbrown Jedi Padawan

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    There are lots of scenes in the movies where a stronger usage of the Force would have made for much shorter action scenes (ex: Obi-Wan vs. Grievous). My explanation has always been that the will of the Force is elusive, and that Jedi simply have to follow its lead. If it tells them to fight it out with a lightsaber instead of use a simple Force push, then they go with it. Resisting the will of the Force could mean some bad things happen (like Obi-Wan says in ANH, however, Jedi can still influence the will of the Force to a degree).
  8. Kev Snowmane Jedi Grand Master

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    It seems to take more concentration to use Force Powers, which limits their effectiveness against opponents of close to equal or equal skill level or extremely large numbers.
  9. DRush76 Force Ghost

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    Why did Luke have so much trouble in using telekinesis? He not only did so in ESB, but even in ROTJ, when he had the Ewoks believe that Threepio was some kind of god.
  10. Kev Snowmane Jedi Grand Master

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    Because he was only partially developed as a force user.
  11. DRush76 Force Ghost

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  12. Kev Snowmane Jedi Grand Master

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    Yes. Yoda may have "completed his training" in the technical or "book learning" sense, but Luke had only been using the Force for a short time (only ~1 year). His Force skills were unpracticed and only his powerful connection to the Force made it possible to do as well as he did.

    By way of comparison, the average Youngling about to turn Padawan of the PT era had many more years e spent actually using Force abilities than Luke did.
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