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Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Jeremy page, Aug 8, 2014.

  1. Jeremy page

    Jeremy page Jedi Youngling

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    did vader feel the good side of the force when he said
    so I see you built a light saber
    I think he felt the good side of the force
     
  2. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    I don't see how that line correlates to his conflict. He's merely making an observation
     
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  3. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Force Ghost star 6

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    i'm not sure of that. i got that feeling he felt a bit of pride in Luke perhaps
     
  4. Django Fett

    Django Fett Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah and the pride he feels for his son starts to cool his anger for Obi-Wan, he can't be as angry with the man who taught his son. So in that sense light does enter his darkness but only for a few seconds because he's quick to remind Luke about how powerful the Emperor is. And by the end of the scene Luke deeply hurts Vader when he says 'his father is dead', what Vader feels for the light side of the Force at that particular stage is probably more complex than anyone could imagine.
     
  5. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    He was definitely feeling a large amount of regret at the point of ROTJ, but I think that even he was denying it. He honestly seems insecure throughout most of ROTJ, from the very beginning when Palpatine arrives and their awkward conversation, when he consults Palpatine about Luke on Endor, etc
    Everything he says, he says so slowly, cautiously. One of JEJ's finest performances
     
  6. Deltron3030

    Deltron3030 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, he didn't slice Luke in half then and there, so I suppose you could make that leap...

    In that whole scene, Vader is neutered, wistful, and resigned. I did not buy it in my first viewing.

    Don't forget, in his first scene he gives Moff Jerjerrod friendly advice... This is the same character who spent the entire previous film murdering his subordinates. Or rather, I should say, this is NOT the same character.
     
  7. Crystalia

    Crystalia Jedi Master star 4

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    Vaders good side

    in all seriousness though, what Seagoat and Jedi Rising said.
     
  8. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    To me, Vader was never truly a bad guy. He always had good in him, he just didn't realize.
     
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  9. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't consider the lightsabre construction comment to be particularly significant, but the Vader of ROTJ seems to me to be a more conflicted, uncertain character than the ruthlessly decisive enforcer of ANH and particularly TESB.
     
  10. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Agreed wholeheartedly. Having just literally watched SW I-VI, I just can't bring myself to see him as evil. Yeah, he had done some VERY evil things, but he himself was a good person
     
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  11. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He was one seriously bad son of a midichlorian!
     
  12. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's because you're viewing it wrong, you should view it IV - VI.....the end

    He is evil
     
  13. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Lol I srsly hope that's a joke
     
  14. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Nope, if you have watched IV-VI and then have some time to kill I guess you could then go watch I-III, fast forwarding through most of II.
     
  15. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Well I'm still gonna interpret that as a poorly executed, if not offensive joke
     
  16. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Offensive?

    This is the CT, anything about the PT is considered offensive round here
     
  17. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    The fact that I and several other people here love the entire saga begs to differ

    Whatever, we're going off topic so let's get back to what this thread is meant to discuss
     
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  18. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Good call Seagoat. Not the place for a viewing order debate or a PT free for all.
     
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    natureboy76 Jedi Knight star 2

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  20. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    That's quite probably my favorite SW fanart, yet it's fanart nonetheless