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Vaders' blaster absorbing hand..

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by jedi_quinn, Sep 6, 2002.

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  1. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I've always believed he just deflected the laser blasts.
     
  2. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Salty, it sounds like you'd believe just about anything :p

    (BTW, still working on those LD pics of Luke under Bespin)
     
  3. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    All 5 movies thus far are open to many interpretations. I try not to discount anyone's opinion unless it's so completely off the wall that I can't justify accepting it. With that being said, I have always believed the shots were deflected and not absorbed.
     
  4. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Sorry, Salty.

    Everyone's being so serious today. I must need bigger emoticons?
     
  5. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Nah, it's ok. I wasn't blasting you. There are many on these boards that only accept their own opinions. That's the last way I want to be perceived. I try to keep an open mind to what people are saying.

    :)
     
  6. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    General Kenobi, I can never find anywhere the bolts were deflected. They look like they got absorbed. Help me out here.
     
  7. son-of-skywalker13

    son-of-skywalker13 Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    deflecting and absorbing things using the force is not something limited to yoda. deflecting lightning isnt even limited to yoda. In ROTJ luke deflects the emporers lightning (albeit ver poorly) for a while until it becomes too much for him. It is extremely possible and very probable thatvader either absorbed or deflected the laser with the force

    i for one think it was absorbed
     
  8. jedi_quinn

    jedi_quinn Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Wow! Yet again this thread has been resurrected.

    My only popular thread ever. Enjoy.
     
  9. JediHunterCommand

    JediHunterCommand Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I'm pretty sure it's deflection.

    One of my parent's friends, before ESB even came out, predicted that scene precisely -- he said that Vader would simply hold up his hand and deflect the shot. This is when ANH was the only movie, Yoda had barely been concieved of, and Vader was still the only Dark Side force user the world knew of.

    I, Jedi doesn't quite get it right; Luke says that it was absorbtion and telekinesis using the energy, but a) he wasn't there, and b) deflection followed by simple Force useage would have the same result.
     
  10. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    I always thought he deflected the blaster bolts, using either the Force, his armored suit, or a combination of the two. As others have said, you can see the shots rebounding off his hands, as well as blast marks on the wall when the camera switches to behind Vader.
     
  11. Delorean_Kenobi

    Delorean_Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    According to the novelisation of The Empire Strikes Back it says that Vader lifted a gauntlet protected hand and deflected them so they exploded against the walls.

    Sounds like it was armour that protected him, though I think he would have used the Force to help him place his hands in the right places to deflect them. The same way a Jedi uses the Force to deflect a blaster bolt using his lightsaber.
     
  12. C-Bjedi

    C-Bjedi Jedi Youngling

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    Methinks you are right Delorean_Kenobi.
     
  13. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    [image=http://www.jedinet.com/multimedia/gallery/Original_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader/vader_055.jpg]
     
  14. MeBeJedi

    MeBeJedi Force Ghost star 6

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    Nice pic, but it's the wrong angle, and really doesn't address any of the points here. :(
     
  15. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Looks like I get to disagree with MeBeJedi. *snicker* *snicker*

    The pic shows that Vader's hand wasn't held at the correct angle to deflect the shot the way it did. If the shot was just bouncing off his armored glove, it should have been deflected downward where it would have gone into the table. Ergo, Vader must have used the Force.
     
  16. DEEPBLUE

    DEEPBLUE Jedi Youngling star 1

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    - Vader's hand wasn't held at the correct angle to deflect the shot the way it did. -

    this assumes that the shots -were- deflected. while scorch marks do appear on the walls afterwards, a close look at the actual moment of contact with darth vader shows no deflection. similarly, the resulting explosion from the impact argues against absorption as well. the energy of the laser is transmuted to an electrical discharge. this could be the result of either using the force or a defense mechanism built into the suit, or a combination of both.

    the resulting sparks of this energy transference could have resulted in the scorch marks on the walls, since the discharges covered several square feet of space, and the sparks were released in random directions.
     
  17. Force_Wielder

    Force_Wielder Jedi Master star 4

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    I think he uses the FORCE to deflect the bolts and they shoot off of to hit the walls. Some of the energy might have been absorbed, but I think a robotic hand would have been blown apart if it was to just "reach out and grab the laser blast". The FORCE is all-powerful and in the hands of Darth Vader...why couldn't he deflect laser bolts?
     
  18. DEEPBLUE

    DEEPBLUE Jedi Youngling star 1

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    - why couldn't he deflect laser bolts? -

    i did not question his -ability- to deflect laser bolts. i merely stated that we do not -see- the deflection of laser bolts in the movie.
     
  19. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Everytime I see that scene, it looks like Vader absorbs the blaster bolts.
     
  20. DEEPBLUE

    DEEPBLUE Jedi Youngling star 1

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    whether or not absorption occurs to any extent, a great deal of electrical resistance occurs in these scenes.
     
  21. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    He definitely uses the Force to absorb them.
     
  22. DEEPBLUE

    DEEPBLUE Jedi Youngling star 1

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  23. ForceHeretic

    ForceHeretic Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I always figured Vader was just blocking the shots with the force by creating a kind of force wall right in front of him, which is pretty cool I think
     
  24. The_Anakin_Wannabe

    The_Anakin_Wannabe Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It appears that Vader delects some blasts and aborbs others. In my opinion all by using the Force.

    Several shots were fired by Han, but evidence exists that only one shot was deflected - the burn mark on the wall. Vader also uses his other hand, which I believe it still flesh and blood. That disproves the theory that it was his robotic hand that deflected/absorbed the shots from Han.
     
  25. darth-skycrawler

    darth-skycrawler Jedi Master star 2

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    Vader can see the future, strangle people with his mind, tear apart, metal and discover a rebel base by looking at a picture of the planet. Yet people here do not seem to believe that he can block a blaster bolth with his hand. This is surely not logical thinking.
     
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