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Discussion Variety: "There will be at least one Star Wars movie a year"

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by rezpen, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, that is the way Rick McCallum described it, pretty bitchin' prospect. I hope that project or something like it will see the light of day.
     
  2. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I suspect a film a year will turn the mass audiences they are looking for against them. It is pretty clear that so far as Disney is concerned Star Wars is of no more importance than X-Men or the Avengers films.

    Just crank out the films, quality be damned, get your big opening weekend return and start planning out the next mediocre installment to ensure its big opening weekend.
     
  3. Boxster

    Boxster Jedi Knight star 1

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    I think this is a good idea. A lot of my young nieces and nephews across a few countries, were fans of SW and most parts of the CW series but the series took so long to air between each episodes and seasons that their interest simply went somewhere else. If I am not mistake, Ben 10 and some other cartoons are showing on a daily basis. CW is weekly and there is a long break during each season.

    So, the more SW, the merrier! [face_dancing]

    But I wonder if Nick Fury will appear at the end credit of Ep9?:D
     
  4. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    The biggest problem with this is that now, we'll have to get in line for tickets EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Makes it a bit tricky to stay on the boss's good side...





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    - Look at the size of that thing!

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  5. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well, the Avengers made half a billion more than any SW film, so why shouldn't it be on equal footing?
     
  6. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Thats kinda the point. To Disney Star Wars will not be anymore important than Thor #2, Ironman #3 or X-Men #6.

    Star Wars was going along just fine for all these years. Now Disney is acting as if it is somekind of terrible charity project they are going to fix.

    We shall see. But my expectations are really, really low for the Disney take on Star Wars.
     
  7. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    It is not on equal footing, nor should it be. And no, the Avengers and the Marvel movies are not as popular as SW. Adjusted for inflation, 4 out of 6 SW movies earned more than the Avengers; that is a major distortion to say Avengers out-earned SW; it was put out years after any SW movie..
     
  8. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm aware of the inflation, however I don't know that Episode 7 would make much more than 1.5 billion. so yeah, they'd be about equal.

    Three out of the 4 were from the 1970s and 1980s. Disney cares about making money now.
     
  9. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    We have no idea how much Episode 7 will make. Given it will likely have the big stars from those 70's big-earners, and IS a SW movie (and the first in ten years), we have a lot of good reasons to believe it WILL earn more than that (we can pile on top the big-time director and screenwriter, big budget, Lucas story/script, on and on). Looking at the bigger picture (ALL of the movies and general popularity), I think it would be a silly assumption to say they are equal.

    Phantom Menace sold better than the Avengers, and was the worst SW movie. This was partially because it was the first SW movie in a lot of years (kind of like, you guessed it, Episode 7, ding ding, we have another reason it could out-sell Avengers).
     
  10. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Really, you think it could earn more than 1.5 billion? After the disappointment in the prequels I think we're looking more at a billion if they're lucky. But who knows.

    EDIT: And the previous movies and general popularity are nice, but Disney is just worried about how much the new ones will make.

    EDIT 2: Also, according to http://www.federicopistono.org/blog...sing-films-of-all-time-adjusted-for-inflation

    Only ANH made over 1.5 billion WW when adjusting for inflation.

    And when TPM came out, all the SW movies were well recieved (generally). That's no longer the case.
     
  11. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I don't think they're worried about that at all, to be honest ;)





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    - I know, father.

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  12. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    The methodology of the site you quote is different than the vast majority of them; I could give you a page of links to sites that say differently with more well accepted methodology. http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm or http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/alltime.mv?adjusted+ByAG

    The prequels were all relatively big sellers, in the top 60 of all time adjusted for inflation. In any case, I don't know why you are using them as if they are an indicator; these will be nothing like the prequels, and likely have the OT cast and totally different people making them.

    Yes, I think it will be massive.
     
  13. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    The links you posted are just domestic grosses, that's why the site I linked to has a different methodology.

    The prequels are what is freshest in the audiences minds at this juncture. They will have an effect on the box office. How much is open to speculation.
     
  14. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Right, because domestic is the only reliable thing that can be calculated when going back that far; even the link you quote pretty much admits it is impossible to accurately measure across different currencies.

    An effect on box office? Funny how people talk as if they were bombs. Problem is, their box office take doesn't match with that assessment, no matter what purist OT SW fanboys think (not saying you are that, referring to much of this site). Again, the PT were a huge success, bigger than most of the Marvel movies. Not as big as the OT, but it is laughable to make them out to be a commercial failure. In any case, people look at SW as a whole; even young kids now have seen all of them. Go down to your local Walmart or any toy store. Tell me how many rows of SW toys you find.
     
  15. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Regardless, I really don't see episode 7 making over 1.5 billion. So as far as Disney is concerned, they're roughly equal. Obviously SW had more of a cultural impact but cultural impact doesn't pay the bills.

    The prequels weren't bombs, but they left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.
     
  16. yodasbum

    yodasbum Jedi Master star 2

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    At the moment it is Kennedy at the helm and for the length of her contract (another 4 years) she will make damn certain that Star Wars gets off to a quality start. As long as Lucasfilm keeps as talented a person as her in that top position then I don't think Disney will turn Star Wars into a chicken battery farm. I'd hope that she is there at least for the duration of the ST.
     
  17. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    Are you a Disney exec?

    A bad taste in people's mouths? Can we take a collective taste, or are we overgeneralizing? Even on this site of hardcore fans there are those who loved and those who hated; judging by their relative success, most in the general public liked them. The bottom line is they sold well; that is the objective data that we have, which indicates they were well liked in general.

    I wish this were an opinion casino where we could make bets on things. I'll place a big bet on Episode 7 being huge.
     
  18. Ryus

    Ryus Jedi Master star 4

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    If the early reviews come back saying "This isnt the movie we're looking for" it will make somewhere between $600 million and $800 million for my conservative guess. There is just too many Star Wars fans out there for it to fail.

    If the early reviews say "This is the movie we're looking for" I suspect conservativly it should gross between $1 billion and $1.5 billion

    If the early reviewers start going all nerdy with their reviews and fangasiming, like they did after "Star Wars" did in 1977, then my conservative guess is $2 billion and become one of the best selling movies of all time (again)

    With mixed reviews between any of these 3 levels falling between which two they secue towards. Now that we talked about money can we get back to the spinoff movies coming in at least once a year...
     
  19. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    No, not until we thoroughly define "fangasiming."
     
  20. Darth_Quintonis

    Darth_Quintonis Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Fangasm: What I did in my pants last October when I heard the news that there would be a new trilogy of Star Wars movies. [face_party]
     
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  21. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Did I say it wasn't going to be huge? Selling well doesn't equal being well liked in general, if you don't get that, then nothing I say is going to convince you.

    Episode 7 isn't going to make 2 billion dollars. Period.
     
  22. yodasbum

    yodasbum Jedi Master star 2

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    If Avatar can make $3 billion then VII can better that gross in a heartbeat. All it needs are a few headlines in the main media points that say 'Star Wars is Back: episode VII is even better than Empire' then the fans and public will take care of the rest.

    The better box office that VII gets then the less likely that Disney slate/saturate he schedule with cannon fodder to recoup the $4billion outlay. I have no issues with a flood of Star Wars films coming out every year but I'd rather have quality. If VII matches Attack Of The Clones gross then I would expect them to flood the market with cheap crap to regain the outlay. The rumour about an Obi Maul film, which I think is a lie, or a Darth Vader/Boba Fett/Yoda standalone trilogy don't inspire me because their is no reason to tell these stories other than make money. The acquisition of Lucasfilm is a risk for Disney as they need to hit a home run with VII critically as well as commercially. Everything indicates that they are going for the best and most suitable talent they can get.

    I've got faith in Kenndy, George and JJ and predict that VII will do $2 billion and will regain all time box-office No.1 if released in 3D and/or IMAX. Why? It’s got cinematic history that Avatar and The Avengers didn't. Tickets prices will be higher when it comes out and you've got four or five generations that will take their kids and grandkids again and again if this film hits the spot.
     
  23. topgoalscorer_no11

    topgoalscorer_no11 Jedi Master star 3

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    What if it's really good? Superbly written, great story, critical smash? With the nostalgia factor at work, you could see an absolute behemoth. EDIT: Yodasbum said the same thing above, so my post is redundant. Sad.
     
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  24. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Unfortunately, superbly written great stories don't usually do well at the box office.
     
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  25. SnakeWesker

    SnakeWesker Jedi Master star 1

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    I would actually be shocked if Ep7 DIDN'T make two billion.