JCC Virginia GOP introduces bill to instrumentally RAPE all women who want an abortion (seriously)

I wasn't aware that my opinions should be shocking. I have a certain point of view.

If it matters, I am not shocked by your opinions either.

 

What if the woman was raped and an egg was fertilized in the process? Still support it then?

 

If memory serves, they do


I think its sickening

 

Whenever you are having a medical procedure done, doctors show you the part of the body that is being affected (whether it be your kidneys, your brain, your knee etc).

To show the woman her "clump of cells" is just consistent with the medical practice in all other fields.

 

Eh, I think the possibility of the pregnancy being a product of rape/abuse is beside the point; I have no idea what the numbers are but I'd guess it probably constitutes a minority of abortions. The pathological need to punish women for 1. having a 40-year-legal procedure done and 2. not wanting to potentially commit the rest of their lives to motherhood is plenty sickening enough.

 

no it doesn't.

 

NO!

I'm advised of the cancer or general illness that is afflicting me but only shown an x-ray or similar at most, this is done as I as a layman have no idea what the hell is affecting me and this brings it to the front of my thought process so as to enable me to understand what I am going to go though once I get to Chemotherapy or whatever treatment it's going to be.

In an abortion I already know (in most cases) what I am going to go through and have an understanding of how I am likely to feel afterwards. I am also going to feel crappy enough in the build up to the proceedure whether the pregancy was cause by consensual sex or otherwise.

To add the view of a "child" that I didn't want just adds a punishment to an already difficult proceedure.

It's wrong on many levels.


This is coming from a bloke as well, I don't like abortion but sometimes it is necessary, it's needed for the welfare of the mother to be or just to prevent an unwanted child ending up in a life that no one on earth would want.

 

What about the fathers?

 

Umm....wildly different circumstances? I mean, I get that you want to guilt people into not getting abortions, but come on.

 

Ironically, this is the same argument that Catholic employers (and religious pharmacists) use against mandatory cover for contraceptives.

 

Cunning edit.


I take it you noticed how incendiary your reference to murdering unborn babies could be?

 

NIAWYC

When I had a sore throat, last week, before giving me some antibiotics my doctor walked me over to a microscope with my throat swab on it.

 

It's only fair to show you the helpless bacteria that you were about to be murdering.

 

Doctors are required to inform and educate their patients. This often involves looking at pictures.

I don't think that it's "mean".

Fathers don't get to make the decision, so I don't think they should have to look at the picture.

 

It wasn't a "cunning" edit. It was just an edit.

For invasive procedures pictures are usually shown.

 

Ah, abortion. Yet another tool to lead the sheep. Perkins, Focus on the Family, The Discovery Institute, Behe; these so called leaders are atheists using religious views as a means to money and possibly power if they can get it. They give the rest of us non-believers a bad name. Charlatans they are and nothing more.

 

Sure they do. Do you seriously feel that the father has no input or involvement in a pregnancy, or are you trolling here? Sure, it's the mother who goes through the actual procedure, but ideally the father should be present (except, of course, in cases of rape or the father not being the greatest of people).

I really don't know how / why your supreme misogyny still surprises me... I suppose I figured you'd eventually grow up / educate yourself.

 

I would think it far more misogynistic to require the father to be there, since it is entirely the woman's decision.

Edit: It would be tantamount to saying "you cannot have this abortion unless the father supports your decision."

 

I didn't say anything about "requiring" the father to do anything. I'm saying that, ideally, both parties who had a hand in the pregnancy should be present. What I'm saying is, if the pair are both mature and responsible people who happen to not be ready to be parents, they'd make the decision together and support each other before, through, and after the process.

Of course, you and I have very differing views on gender equality, so my words are going to fall on deaf ears.

 

The thing about abortion is....it's easy to be judgmental when you've never had to actually deal with it, or the emotional consequences. After you've witnessed a friend or acquaintance be forced into making that choice...yeah. Judging becomes harder. That's all I'm going to say.


Well, that plus the fact that now I believe that abortions should cost a minimum of $20,000, billed to the sperm donor. Fine waived if the assclown opts for castration.

 

I don't know where to start Wannasee, but I'd suggest you don't get me started.

 

dammit wannasee