JCC VISIT PYONGYANG

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  1. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    apparently rollerblading is compatible with the juche idea
  2. Ender Sai Chosen One

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  3. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    i dont see how a lighthearted tourism ad is cause for a senate thread
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  4. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    lol they actually have a wannabe Tiananmen Square? Complete with a pretend gate to the Forbidden City, with portraits of the Kims on it?
  5. beezel26 Force Ghost

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    yeah and on every day an innocent Korean stands up to a line of cardboard tanks only to be dragged away to his death.
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  6. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    I like how the camera focused on the DHL van. I want to visit that van.
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  8. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    I read this story on the New Yorker or something about the LA Philharmonic going on a cultural tour to the DPRK, and they explained the vast resources at your disposal in their computer lab/library. I think they have something like 500 books, all written by the incredibly prolific Kims of course.

    Theyhave the whole Stalinist architecture thing down pat. These are people who make a triumphal arch just slightly larger than the Arc de Triomphe, and a monumental obelisk just slightly taller than the Washington Monument. They know all about phallic architecture and will not be caught short.
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  9. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    i dont know about you, but i would read the **** out of any book (actually) written by kim jong-il
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  10. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    Can you please hit yourself in the face? Full on fist, no open slaps.

    Interesting video though, but I was just left with the sense of how cold and sterile the place is.
  11. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    yeah the aforementioned stalinist architecture is kind of a bummer but at the same time open spaces and lack of advertising is pretty appealing to me for some reason

    also it is a tourism ad. the logo at the end is for a dprk tourist agency, and supposedly the north has been ramping up their efforts to attract tourists since last year
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  12. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    Lack of obnoxious billboards is great. So are the open spaces (although other cities have that). Not so much everything else.

    Did that giant hotel that dominates the skyline ever get finished?
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  13. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    Yeah it's like... creepy and regimented and soulless. I love grand architecture and the like, but the sort you find in Western Europe or the U.S. East Coast -- the kind that invites the viewer in, and makes them a part of it. The stuff there in Pyongyang is forbidding and not very pleasant.

    Agree about the open space, though I think that's just only possible because of the hugely low population there. Beijing also has similar Stalinist buildings in its government areas, but it doesn't have the same sense of open space because of the population (and the air quality, lol).

    The ornamental, central parts of DC, Paris, London, Boston, etc. have some open space. Can't avoid having a ton of cards and all, but it's still nice.

    Yeah, that's the trick isn't it? I don't know that he would've ever sat down to write anything, unless it was about basketball or something.
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  14. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    my understanding is it was finished in like 2012
  15. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    No I get that, and yes - the lack of billboards I noticed too. But it's something else. There's just no joy anywhere. They're all so grim and functional.

    But take this video as a contrast:

    My brother's company did this and a Taipei (there might also be Shanghai too) ad for Louis Vuitton as part of their brand launches in those places.

    Despite the LV logos, there's no emphasis on billboards or ads or anything but the cities seem so much more alive. Even Taibei, which is pretty sleepy by comparison with Hong Kong, feels like there's life there.

    I watch that HK LV ad and I want to go to HK. I don't want to buy a Vuitton wallet or belt for example, but I do want to go.

    I don't want to go to Pyongyang, despite having heard about how interesting the experience is from friends who went.
  16. beezel26 Force Ghost

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    You go to Pyongyang like you want to go to a zoo.
  17. LostOnHoth Chosen One

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    Apparently there is no night life there or cafés or restaurants. Where will the tourists sleep and what will they eat? Tourism ad 101 fail. I did like the look of fear in the eyes of everyone in the close ups, except for the kid who is too young to understand fear.
  18. beezel26 Force Ghost

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    Tourists go to North Korea to gawk at the oddity that is North Korea. It has no history or anything else for that matter. It has the Kims and the regime. People are openly starving and the few tourists that do go just simply want to see the curiosity of the zoo. They want to stay at the residents and record what weird things are going on.
  19. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    What.

    I feel like you should know people who have been before making this comment.

    Shush beezel.
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  20. beezel26 Force Ghost

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    Explain to me then what people go to North Korea for besides spying.
  21. Ender Sai Chosen One

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    I can't explain because I don't understand what you are saying.
  22. LostOnHoth Chosen One

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    Beezel I was commenting on the content (or lack thereof) of the ad, particularly the absence of any shots of the place at night or any shots of people eating or drinking. This oversight is pretty much an unforgivable sin. You will note the other ad of HK featured some night scenes and some scenes of eateries. The ad leaves you underwhelmed because it does not cater to our basic human needs.
  23. beezel26 Force Ghost

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    People who visit North Korea visit for the shock value.
  24. Darth Morella Force Ghost

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    AFAIK, it's just an empty shell with no electricity or running water, let alone habitable rooms.
  25. duende Force Ghost

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    this was a fun watch:



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