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ST Visual links between the trilogies.

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by StoneRiver, Mar 26, 2015.

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  1. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    This is just a fun discussion while we wait, and I haven't seen any threads where I think this will fit. Of course, if this convo is already happening, please lock/merge. Thank you. :)

    With regard to the OT and the PT, there were several visual links to join RotS to ANH, even though there is an in universe 19 year gap, and a 28 year gap between movie release dates.

    The first link(and it's a big one for me), the corridors of the Tantive IV, placed deliberately at the end of RotS to link the to the beginning of ANH.
    Another example is the binary sunset scene at the end of RotS which is very reminiscent of the binary sunset in ANH.
    Bail gives the droids to Captain Antilles at the end of RotS, and C-3PO mentions his last master was Captain Antilles in ANH.

    I'm sure there are a few more, but I hope you get what I mean using the above examples. Feel free to add more if you are so inclined.

    Now to the actual EPVII question - Do you think there will be anything visual towards the beginning of TFA that will be a direct link to the end of RotJ?
    With a possible 30 year in universe gap, I think we, the audience, will need one or two

    For example, we may have a scene with Kylo Ren in an abandonded ewok village where he finds the Vader helmet. (Yes, I am aware that this is not included in any spoilers but I'm just spitballing here).
    Maybe the desert planet is Tattooine (one of the suns has been destroyed by one of these super weapons) and we fly past a derelict Jabba's palace.

    Regardless of spoilers, are there any visual links you think would be fitting?
    Using the spoilers, are there any visual links you have an idea about?
    Whatever, are there any visual links you would like to see?

    Oh, and please do not use returning actors as a visual link, that's not what I mean. [face_peace]
     
  2. Karl0413

    Karl0413 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Don't forget the Millennium Falcon, which is probably the biggest visual link between the two trilogies. Also TIE fighters and Star Destroyers, especially the hangars and bridges.
     
  3. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    The ships themselves wasn't really what I was aiming at, but hangers and bridges, sure. Although the obvious 100% guaranteed one will be the MF cockpit.

    And maybe a scene set in the Rebel conference room from RotJ? But this time it's not as full and there isn't actually a crowd watching a presentation. Just ideas for the sake of discussion....
     
  4. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    Beautiful tie in by GL IMO.

    JJ may very well do the same for TFA.

    We had the ending of ROTJ with our heroes celebrating on Endor.

    Here's my Speculative Opening (below idea only) to TFA which I posted some time ago:

    Would make good link to the end of ROTJ.
     
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  5. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    Totally, 100% agree on the GL tie in. And your trilogy end/start linking scene is a good un. I think I would go with the ship approaching Endor and landing. Screenwipe to grave robber in abandoned ewok village, picking up the charred helmet from a pile of ashes...
    Would make good link to the end of ROTJ.
     
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  6. CGI-BOBAFENT

    CGI-BOBAFENT Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think the charred helmet alone is enough of a cue, retrieving it on screen could come across as clunky and unnecessary.
     
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  7. KitsterAKABobaFett

    KitsterAKABobaFett Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Think we'll see a bunch of dorky 80's haircuts a la ROTJ, or are we to assume the hairstyles of the GFFA evolved in real time like ours?
     
  8. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    It would be something if the downed AT-AT were actually in the Jundland Wastes.
     
  9. Vehgah

    Vehgah Jedi Knight star 4

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    I think there's a bigger chance of TFA having a visual tie in to ANH.
     
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  10. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    visual link? everything i saw in that teaser trailer was OT Falcon, OT Tie Fighter's, OT X-Wing's. The question at this point is whether there's anything New.
     
  11. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    Those OT props had the New actors.

    We will see the OT actors accompanied with new props. (Hopefully in the next trailer)
     
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  12. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    They weren't OT X-wings either... it's a new design... an evolution [face_peace]
     
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  13. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    And the Falcon's new Radar Dish.
     
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  14. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    lol , okay new colors for the X-wing's equal new.
    i'll let the auto companies know that :p
     
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  15. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    I work in the commercial truck markets.

    I won't mention names but there are commercial truck companies that use this equation : new colors=new model year.

    LOL

    I think the TFA X-wings have a refined engine design if I'm not mistaken.
     
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  16. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    oh i know. i don't know how many car ad's i've seen that said "New" , when i knew it was the same old chassis underneath.
     
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  17. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    they are the mcquarrie concept split engine x wings and they are very different in length and lines.
     
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  18. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, the X-wing change is a lot more than just new colors.
     
  19. Nando

    Nando Jedi Knight star 3

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    My opinion. Episodes 1-6 was about Anakin Skywalker. Now begins another story, no thematic link with the other films. Now visually. It seems that there are connections.
     
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  20. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Can't agree with this. Episodes 1 - 3 were about Anakin, but 4 - 6 were clearly focused on Luke and how he redeems his father.
     
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  21. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    I think you may need to do a closer comparison between OT X-wing and ST X-wing. Colour has nothing to do with it. Compare the wings more closely
     
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  22. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    Here we go:
    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Wildcatbarry

    Wildcatbarry Jedi Master star 4

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    Those pictures are taken form very similar perspective angles.

    Intentional by JJ?
     
  24. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    Nice. Is there a comparison pic of the wings open? That's how I first noticed the difference.
    So X-wings are a visual link between trilogies, but they have changed.
    Other than the Kylo/Endor/Vader helmet scenario, are there any more that could be done without being forced, in the same way GL got the visual links to ANH from RotS?
     
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  25. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think all of the details and differences got pretty well documented within THIS thread.
     
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