Visual Storytelling at its greatest: In depth analysis.

Ah! There they are!
The senate is the most obvious one.
To see just what state the galaxy is in, all one has to do is look at Coruscant in an establishing shot.
Sith in TPM, dark at night.
Beginning of AotC - Clouded and foggy.
End of AotC - Lightning clouds start to gather as Dooku's sip approaches. Then it enters and the sky is red. This continues into the clone launch.

It's not what this thread is for I know, but it helps to reinforce the senate parallel.

 

Flight into Uncertainty
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Similar Positions Reversed
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An Eerie Memory of the Past
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A Master's decision; A Jedi's Proclomation
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(this is here just because it reminds me of old obiwan)
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A Mentor Lost
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(my two personal favorite):

A Father's Sacrifice
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The Story Ends How It Began
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You guys discuss. I want to hear!

I'm not finished yet, I think I'll post them in spurts.

 

great work again, darthsolo. you have great insight into the parallels of the two trilogies. keep them coming!!!!

 

Well, I'll just pick out my favs. from this 2nd set of excellent pics (thanks again to _dArTh_Solo :

Obi Wan looking at Luke (after Owen's/Beru's tragedy):

Obi Wan probably would like to know with concern/looking for some sort of answer what this young boy will say (who is walking up to him from after the discovery of Owen/Beru?s death).

Luke then realizing that there is really nothing left as his foster parents, so to speak are dead. Luke then resolutely decides or promises that he?ll become a Jedi, like his father who in truth he is only told about.

Luke at the same time, has no idea, how exactly how his journey would be to become a true Jedi. .

Then look at Ep. I (mirror yet somewhat role reversing):

Anakin is asking with concern what will happen to him, as he basically has nothing left really, since Qui Gon a foster parent, if you will and the only one to believe in him is dead. Anakin is looking for some sort of answer.

But in this case, it is Obi Wan who is telling Anakin, what exactly will happen- that he?ll become a Jedi . Obi Wan tells Anakin, since it was a promise made by him to Qui Gon who in truth told him to do it .

Obi Wan has really no idea how Anakin?s journey will be like to become a true Jedi.

My other fav. I'll get back on that. Hope no one fell asleep trying to decipher, what I was trying to say.

 

Morgan, those were some amazing comparisons. While I was aware of a few, there were several I hadn't noticed before.


Beautiful.

 

The only two that were truly odvious are from the Lars moisture farm. The real reason I posted those is to get a sense of how the shots differ from the two pictures....and really the dinner scene is just shown from the opposite side of the table in AOTC from ANH.

An eerie memory of the past gives me chills, since that is where Anakin made HIS proclomation....the become the most powerful Jedi ever.

 

I guess people gave up and stopped reading this thread because they thought I would never update it again.

 

Well, I knew you'll come back, atleast do it for me

BTW, forgive my ignorance but who is Morgan

 

I am Morgan.

-Morgan.

 

-Doh-!!! Of course.

Well, then thanks, Morgan for bringing up this awesome thread!

 

Great comparisons, _dArTh_SoLo!

I love positive threads like this one. Keep the imagery coming . . I'm sure there's more.

-Otis

 

Anyone has anything to say about my views of the Anakin/Obi Wan vs. Luke/Obi Wan "be a Jedi" pics? Thanks.

..and where is everybody?

 

This is GREAT!!!!!

 

Hey there,

I want to comment on 'A Father's Sacrifice'.

The thing which comes to my mind is this idea of change and what has to happen to realise this idea.
The keyword here is indeed sacrifice.

Lets make some assumptions first. Life equals change and in Starwars the force is life.

Qui-gon had to identify with change to follow the will of the force. This means you sacrifice the old for the new, constantly: Letting go as a way of life. He lived in the 'here and now' and everyday was truely a new day for him.

Anakin didn't want things to change so he started to identify with that which doesn't (want to) change: the darkside of the force, perhaps the ego of it all. Because he couldn't let go he became fed up with reality (which did fit or match with the things he kept holding on to, and which in result he had to 'fix'). This way he became, step by step, a prisoner of the past, of the old, of the darkside.

Qui-gon followed the will of the force and eventually met his destiny. In the heart 'beneath' the seventh gate of infinity he had to die in order to make way for change, for the new (Obi Wan). He as a phyiscal presence had became 'old'. So in a metafysical sense, by his sacrifice he gave birth to change, to the new, to life.

Anakin followed the will of the darkside of the force ('Vader') for the largest part of his life. Finally he met his destiny as well. He finally understood the truth about the force, about love, about life and about freedom; he sacrificed himself, for Luke, the new.

But sacrifice is a matter of choice, right?

It is clear to me that Anakin, at the end in VI, makes his sacrifce consciously, through choice. However, with Qui-gon it looks different, as he didn't expect his demise at all..Maybe he had made the choice a long time ago when he became a Jedi in the first place?

Hmmm, i'm sure he accepted it... but this difference might play an important role in the mystery surrounding the Jedi ghost thing.

 

Don't really have anything to say, but, yeah, great stuff. Keep it coming!

 

This is one of my favourite threads ever, keep up the good work !!!!!

 

THIS was what George Lucas meant when he said he was a "visual storyteller". I heard some complaints from fans saying that just he was reinforcing the fact that he was obssessed with his cgi. No, I think what Lucas was trying to say was that he wanted tell his story using awesome parellels like these. I agree that the shot with Obi-Wan out in the rain with his hood on DOES resemble the older version of himself in ANH.

 

A picture truly is worth a thousand words.

 

Ditto!

This is an amzing thread. Special thanks to the screencappers!!

With reference to the shot in AOTC when Anakin cradles his dead mother - aswell as referencing the 'goodbye' shot in TPM, it also visually resembles the shot of Luke during the Binary Sunset in ANH - he looks up, then down with his eyes closed, then up again... each time it's as if something changes during the two individuals, and when they look up, they somehow know their destiny is about to change.

Lucas and his gang are nothing if not top notch students of the cinematic image.

Once again, AWESOME THREAD!!!!!!!

 

I'm not good at screencapping but somebody can try these:

Vader and Emperor walking side by side on the Death and Anakin and Palps side by side in AOTC

Anakin and Padme/Luke and Leia on the extending bridge.

Anakin and Vader with arms folded behind their back.

Anakin/Vader blocking the death blow to Obi-Wan/Emperor.

Last shoot of AOTC and 2nd to last shot of ESB.

 

My two personal favorite are "A Master's Decision" and "A Mentor Lost."

It's amazing how alike Obi-Wan and Luke look as they watched their respective masters die. It's also kind of interesting that Obi-Wan's picture is tinted in red, though I'm not sure there's any significance to this, as far as the parallel goes.

On the other hand, the similarity of the scenes in which Anakin leaves Shmi in TPM and then Anakin comes back to find her are...well, the TPM one is full of light (Anakin's becoming a Jedi (maybe)) and though both mother and son are definitely sad, Shmi's smiling and Anakin's just frowning. In the AOTC one, the picture is dark (showing the start of Anakin's descent to darkness) and he's crying. The mood is much darker.

Thank you, _dArTh_SoLo for rekindling some of my lost interest in the SW saga as a whole and George Lucas.

Depa Billaba

 

Some of us never lost interest in the first place

 

Some of us never lost interest in the first place

I never said I lost my interest. As long as SW includes Obi-Wan Kenobi, it'll always hold my interest.

Depa Billaba

 

I must say that those are all great pics to show just how well the OT and PT fit together. So many things mirrior(sp) each other. Every thing from the death of Vader to the death of Qui-Gon. Luke going to save Han and Leia and not knowing what is going to happen. Padme not knowing what is about to happen to her. Obi-wan lossing his master. Luke lossing Obi-wan etc.

 

One parallel I noticed which is more subtext than visual is the fact that Anakin has a vision of his mother in pain in AOTC and rushes off to save her, ends up completely giving in to his anger and slaughtering the Tuskens. In ESB, Luke has a vision of Han & Leia in pain and rushes off to save them, but somehow manages to avoid completely giving into his anger when dueling Vader. Or it was just that Vader so soundly smoked him there was no chance of Luke even acting on his anger!