JCC Warp Power's Chicago Pile Moment May Be Upon Us

Discussion in 'Community' started by Chancellor_Ewok, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Nah, it's pretty much always stayed in the realm of implausible. Also, the negative mass requirement dwarfs all others in terms of complications/obstacles.
  2. Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus

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    As I've said before: stuck on earth for the remainder of our life as a species. Post-human machines can explore the universe at their leisure.
  3. Likewater Force Ghost

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    Nah, all we need to do is figure out hyperspace cannons, and in 30,000 years...we get to go to coruscant.

    remember doubters
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  4. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    If that is true, it will almost certainly be a social issue rather than a physics issue.
  5. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    And you know this how?
  6. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    I don't view it as being "stuck" here. Earth is likely the only place humans will ever know of and possibly the only place in the galaxy or universe where we can stand on the surface without extensive protection and not ****ing die in 30 seconds or less.
  7. Likewater Force Ghost

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    if one doesnt look we will never find, and on many places on earth not dying in thirty seconds just equals a slower but not any less certain death.
  8. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    I'm having trouble seeing where darth guy said that astrophysicists should stop the search for extrasolat planets that may be habitable.
  9. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    We can usually breathe, though. And extreme temperatures on Earth usually don't compare to extreme temperatures on planets and moons with different atmospheric compositions or barely any atmospheres at all. And even in the Sahara there is potential to find food and water.
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  10. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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    Jonathan Archer is a fictional character.

    Scott Bakula, however, has faith of the heart. Faith to believe. He can do anything, he's got strength of the soul. No one's gonna bend or break him, he can reach any star.
  11. Lowbacca_1977 Force Ghost

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    We're totally gonna find a planet (given sufficient time) that we could grow plants on. Maybe breathe on, but that's much more of a long shot.
  12. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Because interstellar travel is not physically impossible.
  13. Likewater Force Ghost

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    Yeah for people who were raised there, you drop a non beouin or a tuareg in the sahara like you or me we will likely be dead in 24 hours, less time in the artic or antartica, or the atakama deasert.
  14. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    I'm not sure how that counters my points.
  15. Likewater Force Ghost

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    Terraforming, not that aeroforming. If we found other life it's not likely we will be able to eat it. visit other planets, we probably wont damage its ecosystem. Moving there...Likely we'll likely have to pull a Firefly, and terraform planets.
  16. Likewater Force Ghost

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    I am not trying to counter your points just stating, living anywhere except the most pleasent sparts on earth require trial, error, learning and training, space is no diffrent. A far greater task than anything that came before, yes. But it just means doing what humanity has always done.
  17. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    That is hardly the only issue.
  18. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Elaborate, because I am not in the mood for contrarian posturing.
  19. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Let's start with radiation shielding, efficient method to get from surface to space, food storage, etc.
  20. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    But the same principle applies...none of those issues are impossible to deal with. Just difficult as balls.
  21. Lowbacca_1977 Force Ghost

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    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here, in terms of how sentences relate to one another, or to what I said.
  22. Likewater Force Ghost

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    I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here, in terms of how sentences relate to one another, or to what I said.[/quote]

    Terraforming, making planets more earthlike? seeding or out right replacing alien life with Terran based lifeforms, so we can survive on other planets long term?
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  23. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Speed safety. Even if you had a giant shield meters thick and made of carbon nanotubes it will still not be safe to travel faster than 30% lightspeed. You might could clear the way as far as dust particles with a laser from home(or one onboard if you have the power to do so) and go a bit faster. Perhaps a giant magnetic field well ahead of the ship to move things out of the way?

    If people go they are going ot have to go Rama for space and food and material and so forth, and even then the environment should be populated rural.
  24. Darth_Invidious Chosen One

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    You mixed Star Trek's deflector tech and Clarke's Rama craft within two sentences and still don't consider how either tech would be viable within the foreseeable - or not foreseeable - future (especially the Rama craft, with tech Clarke or Lee never bothered to explain since it was created by a vastly superior/unknowable intelligence).

    *Sighs* As much as the physics majors here may damper our illusions with the sad reality of what we as a species are currently capable (or is that incapable?) of, I have to concur that dreaming about the sudden discovery of miraculous tech that will take us to the stars and beyond within (or beyond) our lifetimes is just that, a pipe dream. Might as well; the galaxy will be better off. History has shown that we as a species are far more disruptive and destructive than any of the space monsters our imaginations have conjured up.
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  25. Eeth-my-Koth Chosen One

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