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Discussions Was the Phantom Menace better than the Holiday Special?

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by gambit420, Jun 7, 2013.

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  1. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    Yes I'm serious. Just saw it for the first time. There was alot of rubbish... altho I was entertained by a few parts (Boba fett Cartoon, seeing Han / Chewie in falcon, Luke in the hangar). Maybe even more so than when I saw Episode I back in 1999.
     
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  2. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I don't know, I haven't seen The Holiday Special so I can't compare it.
     
  3. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    It can be life-changing.
     
  4. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hmmm...well, I TPM is my third favorite Star Wars movie, just a hair ahead of ESB. And I've never seen the Star Wars Holiday Special either so I'm going to need a second opinion. Do you think ESB is better than the Holiday Special? If it is, then TPM is as well. But if it isn't, it's likely that TPM is also worse than the Holiday Special. If you could help me out with this, that'd be great. :)
     
  5. Carbon1985

    Carbon1985 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I saw the Holiday Special in 1978 when it premiered, and even as a 6 year old kid I remember it being unwatchable. I don't remember much, but do remember them showing Chewbacca's family. I would like to see it again just to see how bad it is since I haven't seen it in over 33 years. To answer the question: ANYTHING is better then the Holiday Special!
     
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  6. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    In all of my years I have never heard anyone say TPM is ahead of the ESB. I cannot help you. Sorry :(
     
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  7. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    Hey Carbon1985, you still got Garbage pail kids?
     
  8. Rachel_In_Red

    Rachel_In_Red Jedi Knight star 3

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    I would like to see The Holiday Special just to see how bad it really is. The same reason I saw Battlefield Earth. :)
     
  9. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    Maybe if your lucky, Disney will release it this Christmas [face_laugh]
     
  10. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    Hey Rachel, where'd you get that picture from.... I've seen it before
     
  11. Aaronaman

    Aaronaman Jedi Knight star 4

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    Here in New zealand the Star wars Christmas Special actually played in cinemas.....and yes I was unlucky enough to see it haha.
    There is NO way TPM could ever be considered worst than the SWCS!!! Yes the Fett cartoons were cool but even they couldn't save the CS.

    George Lucas has stated he'd love to go around the world and smash every copy of the SWCS and he never said that about TPM.
     
  12. gambit420

    gambit420 Jedi Master star 2

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    But he would also love to do that with every copy the Original Trilogy..... didn't he personally burn up the original negatives in a fire?
     
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  13. Jedi_Ford_Prefect

    Jedi_Ford_Prefect Jedi Master star 4

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    Here's two-- TPM > ESB.
     
  14. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is an hilarious thread. Well done.
     
  15. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Sure it can, maybe if ur a squirrel.
     
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  16. KilroyMcFadden

    KilroyMcFadden Jedi Knight star 3

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    I watch (and derive unintentional joy from,) the Holiday Special every Christmas. I haven't seen GL's version of TPM since about 2007. I never thought about it before, but I think it's possible that I legitimately like the SWHS more than TPM!
     
  17. Jarren_Lee-Saber

    Jarren_Lee-Saber Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Here's three: TPM > ROTS > ESB.
    Welcome to the PT section of the Jedi Council Forums :D
     
  18. Jarren_Lee-Saber

    Jarren_Lee-Saber Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    And to answer your question:
    As the good Carbon1985 said, ANYTHING is better than the SWHS! And The Phantom Menace so supremely better, I don't even know why we're having this discussion!
     
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  19. Darth Nerdling

    Darth Nerdling Force Ghost star 4

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    In my view, TPM is an okay film. Certainly better than any of those Michael Bay Transformers movies or Wolverine or most non-Iron Man Marvel films. To me it was at least as good as any of the Harry Potter films I've seen (only the 1st three I think). I even liked it more than the praised 2009 Star Trek, but that's more because I'm really bugged by plot holes and inconsistencies, and Star Trek had tons of major ones. People just had such high expectations that TPM was a big letdown.

    The Star Wars holiday special is just terrible. Apart from the kind of cool Boba Fett cartoon, it's really unwatchable. At times it's fun to make fun of, but it's so bad that you often can't make snarky comments about it. Often all you can say is "This is terrible" or "This is so bad" or "What were they thinking?" I think maybe if you were drunk or high you might get more of a kick out of it.

    So, my verdict. The Holiday special is far, far worse. It's worse than almost every terrible film that you can think of. I'm trying to think of something to compare it to and I can't. It's that bad.
     
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  20. JoshieHewls

    JoshieHewls Jedi Master star 4

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    How about Manos, the Hands of Fate?
     
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  21. janstett

    janstett Jedi Master star 3

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    The Phantom Menace was a wasted opportunity. It can be saved with a few key alterations (see The Phantom Edit, for example).

    The Holiday Special was just plain cancer to the bone.

    For those who haven't seen it, I'll sum it up.

    Chewie has a family including an annoying kid and grandpa.

    The Star Wars universe contains Bea Arthur (Maude, Golden Girls) and Art Carney.

    Luke has been playing with Leia's makeup kit.


    So now, is the Holiday Special better than AOTC? ;)
     
  22. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    TPM was much better than the Holiday Special. End of story.

    /thread
     
  23. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    really ? I never heard that before . In the UK we had the Ewok movie in the cinema , which was bad enough . Actually I'm not sure which is worst , no , actually the Ewok movie is worse , it has no redeeming fetaures , the holiday special at least has that cartoon .
     
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  24. Jarren_Lee-Saber

    Jarren_Lee-Saber Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Again, no! The closest film in Star Wars to the SWHS is ROTJ, and even that one is better by a LOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot!
     
  25. janstett

    janstett Jedi Master star 3

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