Alright, bear with me on this one. But, was Vader ever truly redeemable? Think about our society. Was someone like Hitler or Stalin redeemable? I say no. Or how about a serial killer like Gacy or Bundy? Or Charles Manson? Even a dirtbag like Chapman only killed one person (John Lennon) and I still cannot see this guy ever being forgiven by society or redeemed. Vader was the ultimate henchman of the Empire. He took part in the destruction of a planet inhabited by millions (or more). He tortured, killed so many people. He almost killed his own son (or was the catalyst for events that would have led to his possible death). After watching ROTS, it got worse. He murdered countless Jedi, including children. Now, I realize the galaxy would never buy into the redemption after all this, but some things always bugged me about this. I remember seeing an interview with Lucas saying how Vader "became the hero." I do not agree with this. Yes, he saved his son (after a long while of thinking) but he also had his own motivations. He saw the Emperor was egging Luke on to kill him and take his place. He knew his time with the Emperor was up (and was probably seething for years about the Emperor lying to him and tricking him). And lying there dying, he tried to make amends with his son. This just does not make him a "hero" to me and does not redeem him (and all of his heinous acts). I know, I know....this is just a movie but I really like to look beyond the action and effects and really get into the characters.