"We Could Keep It A Secret"

EDIT: Son of a Gun...this wasn't supposed to post yet!!!

Anywho...before this posted with no message, my point was, in AOTC, as Anakin was trying to have his way with Padme by the fireplace, he said that "we could keep it a secret".

Well, at the end of AOTC, they are married...but does anyone know? And will they know??? Yes, 3PO is there, and he would likely blab everything, but if he doesn't...will Anakin and Padme speak up, or are they going to "keep it a secret"? Even though Padme has twins, could it end up being a surprise to Yoda and Obi that they are Anakin's kids?

 

You go chief!

 

That was exactly what I was wondering after I saw AotC for the first time. I would guess that it is still a secret.

 

This is one of the things I'm really looking forward to finding out in EpIII.
I would venture to guess that in the beginning they attempt to keep it a secret. Exactly how it's revealed to Obi and then to the Jedi Council is anybody's guess. Would Anakin dare to deny it? Perhaps not. Regardless, I think Padme would be much more straightforward about the whole thing if approached.

 

At the end of AOTC, no one knows because Obi-Wan thinks that Anakin is just "escorting Senator Amidala back home."

I do believe that they will try to keep it a secret though...

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You think they'll be able to keep it a secret for a couple of years, though?

I don't see how Anakin could continuously find a way to make it back to where Padmé is. Afterall, his Jedi missions kept him away from her for ten years.

And, if the rumor is true that Padmé will be pregnant at the beginning of EP3, I find it hard to imagine that no one would know they were married.

 

That's a good point, Queenie!

It would be very hard for them to be able to keep their marriage a secret, especially if Padme is walking around with twins in her stomach.

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Obviously the pregnancy would give things away.

But before that, if Anakin is a Jedi Knight and takes no Padawan he could techically go where he pleased since no one would know better. So visitation might not be rare.

 

If he is still part of the Jedi Order, Padawan or Knight alike, Padmé pregnant or not...he would not be able to go wherever he wants.

I wonder how long he will be a part of the Order. As Obi-Wan said "you will be expelled from the Jedi Order!" when Anakin was willing to give up catching up to Dooku in order to check on Padmé. If they find out he's married, that won't go over to well. And, quite honestly, it doesn't seem realistic to me for them to keep their marraige a secret for a number of years. Also, don't you think the Jedi might be able to sense it?

 

That's exactly right, the pregnancy would give things away. But is the pregnancy that really does give it away? Padme ends up pregnant and that's when everyone finds out that she's been married to Anakin.

I'm just thinking that the whole "keep it a secret" line in AOTC is pretty much cheese, but in a good way. Maybe there's something more to that line...ie. they really do keep it a secret. I don't know. I was very much un-spoiled for AOTC, but I do remember hearing a long time ago that there would be a wedding in AOTC. I had basically forgotten about this before I saw the movie, but I would have figured that it would have been a big thing, have Obi be the best man, yada yada... But it obviously didn't happen this way. Maybe there's a reason...

 

Queenie, I think that?s a good point. Maybe Anakin won?t be part of the Jedi Order for too much longer.

I agree that it?s not very realistic that they could keep a marriage secret for years, but has it really been confirmed that Ep3 will take place years after AOTC? (I know this is another debate altogether, but IMO, I think it will work like the time gap between ESB and ROTJ. Isn?t there supposed to be 2 years or so according to ?official? sources? Even though it really seems like it?s a matter of weeks.)

?Also, don't you think the Jedi might be able to sense it??

Queenie, maybe they could sense this just like the can sense that a Sith Lord is controlling the Senate!

 

True.

But, "the Dark Side has clouded their vision, my friend." They can't sense Sidious being in control of the Senate because he is hindering their ability to see that. But, I would think they would be able to read Anakin's or Padmé's feelings and discover they were married.

 

AHEM!

When one of the trailers is entitled "forbidden love", don't you think it will have to also remain a secret if it's acted upon?

I believe that their love is still very much a secret. For one, I recall George's words for Mr. Willam's regarding the love theme to be "Think about all the tragic loves" and he went on to mention Romeo and Juliet. If George is following a theme, which is almost always is the case, he is thinking about R&J.. A secret, forbidden love.

How could Anakin hide his feelings for her? Well, his is the chosen one and the council is kind of busy with a little thing called the Clone Wars, so I assume they won't be sitting around probing their Jedi all day. Another thing to consider is that if Palpy=Sidious, then this love was completely his doing as he thrust them both into the situation where there love could form (which just plain rocks!). Again, assuming he is Sideous, he will work to hide this from the council and if he can hide a a swelling in the force caused by the creation of a Clone Army for 10 years from master Yoda, then trust me, he can hide the feelings of love in a powerful Padawan who is also actively seeking to do so.

Remember, he is following Anakin's carrer with great interest.

 

I agree with everything Queenie has said.


I'm not even sure if Anakin will be a part of the order by the time Ep. III rolls around.

 

As far as keeping it a secret, does anyone think there was any significance to the fact that Padme had no wedding ring at the end of the ceremony? Was it to keep it a secret, or maybe it's not the custom? Just a nagging question I have.

 

Either they didn't show it or it just wasn't that important.

I think Padmé will say that she's "ill" while she's pregnant and stay at the lake retreat.

 

Keeping their love a secret would be a reasonable idea for Anakin. Afterall, he is the one who suggested it. However, it goes against everything we know about Padmé. She's a very upfront and honest person. She told Anakin that keeping it a secret would be living a lie and would destroy their lives. She said she could not live like that. Why would she suddenly change? That's not a minor personality trait.

I think that by the end, when they've been together for so long, and she's finally come to terms with her feelings so that she is prepared to confess them to Anakin, she no longer cares what will happen. "I think our lives are about to be destroyed anyway." So, she's throwing out all of that "Your studying to be a Jedi, and I'm a Senator" garbage. None of that matters anymore because she knows that she loves him. Anakin was ready to throw in the towel on this "forbidden love" thing a long time ago, and she accepted the same. They got married, afterall.

What logical reason would there be for their marraige to be a secret?

 

They're keeping it a secret so that Anakin can remain a Jedi.

And other than Padme getting pregnant, I don't think it would be difficult at all to keep their marriage a secret for two years. Just because they're married doesn't mean they have to see each other all the time. In fact, sometimes when you're in a long-distance relationship, it helps to get married so you're sure of the other person's commitment even though you can't be together all the time.

As for the pregnancy, I hadn't heard that she'll be pregnant at the beginning of the movie, but even if she is, she may not be showing, yet. Perhaps as it becomes more difficult to hide the fact that she's "with child" someone will catch on? Probably Yoda and/or Obi-Wan?

 

To Jar Jar:

Romeo & Juliet - anakin gets the news that padme is 'dead', he tires to find her and when he does she looks dead; tries to kill himself but decides against it, runs off. obi-wan eventually finds out what happened, he chases after anakin and..dum...dum...they have that legendary duel. meanwhile, padme is alive. but anakin ends up dead. obi-wan finds padme, she tells him, 'u, obi-wan, i'm pregnant' and boom, they rush to hide her na and the twins!

 

Or Anakin's been away fighting the wars and Padme has already had the kids at the beginning of Ep3.

 

I thought that Anakin told Padme that "It would destroy us both" (which made it even more poignant 'cause of course, he's a farseeing Jedi and invariably correct, though he didn't prob know it at the time).

I like to personally think of the "marriage" as more of an official "commitment ceremony" than the taffeta and dove disasters that we're used to on our little planet. It doesn't matter that a Naboo "holy man" is present - Anakin and Padme simply formalise something occurred internally, ie an emotional attachment. The little ceremony is there as a concrete example of that attachment for the audience.

I've no idea how they'd keep it a secret for long 'cept if Anakin's sent on missions to Naboo by a certain chancellor all the time. Obviously, by Epy III, when Padme does get pregnant, Obi-wan finally figures out what's been going on. With the jedicide happening out there, I also think that the council would be otherwise occupied to worry that much about one wayward Jedi. Padme cannot have the twins at the start of Epy III 'cause Anakin would prob have heard of it. He prob sees long before she even knows that she's pregnant though - obviously, Palpy/Sid have reason to suspect and fear Anakin's kid.

 

Last time I checked, Padme was still a Naboo senator, so logically, she should return to Coruscant once the threat on her life had been removed (now that Palps has his army, maybe it's a done deal), right? I mean, she's gotta get off the welfare and go back to work sometime. That puts her back on Coruscant, which also conveniently just happens to be Jedi headquarters.

I know Anakin had not seen Padme in years leading up to AOTC, but I mean he never really had the need to until now. I don't see why a completely obsessed Anakin can't find the time to see her now, still keeping the romance a secret, kinda like the cheating husband/wife finds the time to cheat on his/her spouse, except Anakin is cheating on the Jedi's with Padme. Since they are both centrally stationed on the same planet, they could pull it off, or not, since somebody's gonna blab sooner or later. Also, I believe Anakin will be involved in the war in some way or another, so possibly he will only be on Coruscant from time to time, but they would both be very busy people anyways, finding the time to spend together that much harder, unless Padme is also involved in the war fighting or serving alongside Obi-wan and Anakin, but then again she's supposed to be preggy right? Aww, who knows, great topic Darth Mace.

 

Yoda know's something is going on


you can see this in the scene when she falls of the ship and anakin and obiwan are arguing about them going back. Right afterward you see yoda sort of pondering in a way that he was listening, at first i thought this was corny, but then I thought about it, and it seems to me like he knows something up. What they should have done is have yoda give the same type of look when obiwan says he went back to naboo with her, but I still think that look of yoda's was him saying to himself " something up"

 

Ok, how about this.

Padme and Anakin go back to Tatooine to see his mother's grave for one reason or another. Padme is pregnant and Owen knows this. Obi-Wan comes to get Anakin and they leave for the last battle of the clone wars possibly. At this point Padme has her own adventure and Anakin winds up thinking she is dead. Possibly like the Spiderman choice scene, Anakin has to choose between Padme and Obi-Wan.

Maybe Dooku kills Padme here. Anyway, Lucas has always been big on morals, so the dead-beat-dad thing would fit in nicely to why Owen despises Anakin so much. And would also explain why he gets Luke.

 

Rebel_Skum
you can see this in the scene when she falls of the ship and anakin and obiwan are arguing about them going back. Right afterward you see yoda sort of pondering in a way that he was listening,

Hmm.. when I saw that scene, I got the impression that Yoda senses Anakins fear and anger / dark side etc. etc.. I haven't seen the film in a couple of weeks (head hung in shame ) but doesn't the emperor's theme or the imperial march play subtley when the "camera" focuses on Yoda?