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  1. Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod

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    El punto que me persuadio fue este:

    But seriously, Harry wants a family

    Creo que es el argumento mas convincente.

    Dammit, you have turned me into a believer...
  2. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Believe Pete Believe

    Harry/Ginny the right choice for intelligent people

    on a lighter note

    JKR famous creator of Harry Potter is to do an aperence at THE SIMPSONS.

    In the episode, Rowling will meet beer-guzzling Homer Simpson and his family when they visit England to find a girl with whom Grandpa Simpson had a wartime fling.

    "'The Simpsons' bump into J.K. Rowling outside a bookshop and they talk all about Harry Potter," Don Payne, executive producer of the cult cartoon told the Sun newspaper.

    Furthermore:

    The episode will also feature "Lord of the Rings" star Sir Ian McKellen.

    The simpsons will go to see Macbeth and say the play's name out loud and McKellen gets struck by lightning.

    Both JKR and Ian McKellen will lend their voices.
  3. Rao Jedi Knight

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    How could I be so farsighted?

    Yesturday before I went to sleep I took out my copy of Sorcerers Stone to read it for the 4th time and complete my 4th cicle of the series.

    And look what I found out that had been hitting me on the face three times before.

    You know that there is a rumour that Harry might be the heir of Griffindor right?

    Well McGonnagall says that Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow refering to the Potter's house.

    Who else would live in Godric's Hollow if not Godric Griffindor's heir.

    And remember the sword on Chamber of Secrets.

    Now this thought haunts me: If there were hints of it on the first two books could there be hints of it on the other two?

    But honestly these two hints are enough for me to think that Harry is Griffindor's heir you know how JKR is.

    Could I have tapped into her secret? Will she cease to surprise me afterwards? :eek:

    Oh I hope not!!
  4. Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod

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    I had not gotten McGonnagall's comment, but this is not surprising for me. The way I interpreted the whole sword debacle is that Harry IS Griffindor's heir. Remember Dumbledore's speech after the battle with the Basilisk?
  5. popracer Jedi Knight

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    Harry Potter: ¿sortilegio de la mercadotecnia o hechizo literario?

    Fantasía es una tierra peligrosa,
    con trampas para los incautos y
    mazmorras para los temerarios
    J. R. R. Tolkien


    En su cumpleaños número 11, Harry Potter, un pequeño y escuálido niño inglés -huérfano desde que tenía un año-, se entera de que es mago y por tanto debe asistir al Colegio Hogwarts de Magia y Hechicería. Un estrafalario y desconocido gigante le hace este descubrimiento que abre, para Harry y sus lectores, un mundo plagado de emocionantes y sorprendentes aventuras.


    Son ya cuatro volúmenes publicados de la serie de novelas de fantasía cuyo protagonista es el pequeño mago llamado Harry Potter. Traducidos a muchos idiomas, se han vendido por millones en todo el mundo. Las reseñas sobre los libros, su autora -su fantástica vida- y el fenómeno Potter acentúan dos aspectos: el comercial y la moda generalizada.
    Así lo vemos, por ejemplo, en la vida de Joanne Katherine Rowling: parece un cuento de hadas, ya que después de diversas vicisitudes, entre ellas el fracaso de su matrimonio, regresó a Escocia con una hija de pocos meses. Sin trabajo, sólo con su seguro de desempleo, escribió su primer libro en los cafés de Edimburgo, con su hija. Incapaz de pagarse un juego de fotocopias, pasó el original varias veces a máquina y lo envió a un par de agentes literarios. Una respuesta salvadora cambió su vida.


    Sí, parece cuento de hadas, pero no lo es. La calidad literaria de la autora no es obra de una varita mágica, aunque se valga de ellas en su literatura.


    J. K. Rowling ha escrito cuatro volúmenes -y ha prometido otros tres- porque conoce el mundo de la literatura y sabe desenvolverse en él. Admiradora de dos de los más grandes autores ingleses de literatura fantástica del siglo XX, J. R. R. Tolkien y C. S. Lewis, se suma a su movimiento y aporta su propia visión creando un mundo que atrae -como debe ser en la verdadera literatura fantástica- a todos.


    No caeré en el error de decir que son obras que entretendrán a personas de 8 a 80 años, lugar común totalmente falso como la afirmación «todos llevamos un niño dentro». Frases así dañan terriblemente las obras al colocarlas como infantiles.
    Es probable que quienes las emiten intenten superar el prejuicio racionalista y positivista revalorando los sentimientos, pero si un adulto aprecia un cuento de hadas generalmente se debe a su calidad literaria, no a ese falso infantilismo. «A los niños no les agradan los cuentos de hadas más que a los adultos, ni los entienden mejor que ellos» .
    Por otro lado, esas mismas personas suponen que las obras de fantasía «pueden pasar como» literatura, cuando en realidad son un género literario serio. Precisamente Tolkien levanta la voz y subraya que la literatura fantástica es tan literatura como Shakespeare, Cervantes o Dante. Y, por eso, se le exigirá tanto como a ellos y conmoverá tanto como ellos... o no es literatura.

    LITERATURA PARA CONSUMISTAS
    El mercado parece haber devorado la obra de Rowling; tras el fenómeno de Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal el mundo anglosajón esperó el segundo volumen con miles de preventas en Internet, y millares de niños con sus padres hicieron cola desde la madrugada frente a las librerías para obtener su ejemplar: Harry Potter y J. K. Rowling habían ingresado al mundo de la mercadotecnia como un producto más.


    Desde entonces ese mundo se dedicó a enaltecer a la autora para obtener su producto y aprovechar las ganancias. Firmó contratos para cine y para la producción de juguetes, ropa y miles de subproductos basados en el universo de Harry y sus amigos.


    ¿Es malo ingresar al mercado? Depende. Para una obra literaria puede ser sumamente dañino, podría arriesgar su calidad, pero también puede ser el triunfo esperado por un autor para salir de la pobreza. Rowling lo consiguió: no tendrá que volver a copiar a mano un original para enviarlo a los editores. Según ciertos periodistas, su fortuna personal es de las más cuantiosas del Reino Unido y destina muchos beneficios a ins
  6. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Oct 29, 2002
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    *SPOILER*SPOILER*SPOILER*SPOILER*SPOILER*

    Order of the Phoenix news:

    +Ron is the new Griffindor Keeper
    +The new Defence Teacher (woman) is described as poisoned honey
    +A venomous, disgrunted house elf
    +And Harry finds depth and strength in his friends, beyond what even he knew; boundless loyalty, and unbearable sacrifice.

    *END OF SPOILER*END OF SPOILER*

    I REALLY hope that Ginny does not die. And I'm almost certain that she will not because it would have been pointless to save her from Tom on the second book and kill her on the fifth.
    I don't know why but I think it will be Hagrid... Yes we all love him but it is the most fitting. Why didn't Dumbledore helped him to complete his training as a wizard after his name was cleared of the chamber of secrets incident.
    Am I the only one who thinks he should have his wand back and become a fully trained wizard?
  7. Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod

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    I don't think killing Hagrid would work. He is, after all, the closest Harry has to a father.

    Still, remember that sacrifice doesn't instantly equal death. And that Harry does have other friends.
  8. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Harry has Sirius now and Dumbledore is his mentor more of a father than Hagrid is.

    But JKR said that there was going to be a death that would hurt her to write. She refered to him/her as a fan of Harry.

    Tomorrow Chamber of secrets on DVD and Video.

    and then it's 70 days untill Order of the Phoenix
  9. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Oct 29, 2002
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    what do you think about Adrien Brody as Victor Krum?
  10. Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod

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    No sabia de el comentario de Rowling. Eso lo hace mas interesante. Pero si mata a Hagrid me voy a enfogonar.

    Siento decirte que me doleria menos si muere Ginny.

    Lo de Sirius no esta muy malo...

    Ron as the keeper rulez!



    EDIT: Maybe Colin will die...
  11. Rao Jedi Knight

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  12. Rao Jedi Knight

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  13. RFAskywalker Jedi Knight

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    For those who saw the Special Features DVD on Chamber of Secrets, J.K. Rowling stated that this movie had a bit of foreshadowing towards later books concerning the relationship between Herry, Ron, and Hermoine. I've had friends who speculated in the first movie that it was Hermoine and Harry who would end up together, now on the second one Ron and Hermoine have a 'nice-to-meet-you' kinda deal in the last scene. There are other friends who've speculated that Harry and Ginnie end up together and Ron and Hermoine as well - yet Harry is supposed to like another girl. Can anyone help me out in this confusion???
  14. Jedi_Boricua Jedi Master

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    I'm pretty sure Rao can help you there, or drive you crazy by explaining how he 'knows' it's all going to end!;)
  15. Rao Jedi Knight

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    RFAskywalker,

    The Ron / Hermione = couple evidence in the books is pretty undisputable. however, on the first movie there were some takes that gave the impression of harry/hermione. That was not meant to be interpreted that way.

    That was clarifyied on the second movie by the very famous not hug at the end.

    Harry develops a crush on a ravenclaw girl one year older than him by the name of Cho Chang. But there has not been any pursue from Cho's part yet she has just been friendly towards Harry.

    I'm one of those that thinks Harry should end up with Ginny but I have not found solid proof of it on the books yet like I have found for Ron/Hermione, there has been only hints for H/G. I'm am of course hopeful.

    The only thing that the movie foresaw that the books haven't is the Ron/Hermione not hug that left the audience without much doubt of the evident possible relationship thingy. JKR meant on the interview that the book has many hints for whats going to happen (some of it will be clarifyed in book five).

    To recap: Ron tikles for Hermione, Hermione for Ron, they don't know its love yet but they will, Harry tickles for Cho, Cho is friendly to Harry. Ginny tickles for Harry, Harry saves Ginny.

    That is all I can say without giving you spoilers of books 3 and 4 appart from the Cho thing that you asked directly. If you don't mind the spoilers ask me again and I will be happy to shed some light.

    Read the books if you like it is better that way. If you have ignore the last sentence.

    I hope this has been of some help.
  16. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Oct 29, 2002
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    54 days to Order of the Phoenix

    and read this:

    JKR has beaten Queen Elizabeth II on the rich list of Britain published by the Sunday Times. She is now the richest woman on England (and getting richer). She is the 122 richest person. The Duke of Westminster is number one. The Queen is number 133.

    "With £280 million ($445.5 million), the author -- who wrote her first novel about a boy wizard while a single parent living on a state benefit of only £70 a week -- is now Britain's 122nd richest person.

    Of her fortune, £150 million came from her books and the rest from film rights and Harry Potter merchandise. The fifth book in the series is due out this summer and the third film is on its way." -The Sunday Times

    How does that makes you feel?



  17. Rao Jedi Knight

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  18. Spike_Spiegel Former FF Administrator Former Saga Mod

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    Makes me feel poor. Very very poor.

    And some of that money is mine! I gave it to her!
  19. Rao Jedi Knight

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    But it also gives hope to us Lit mayors... that write of course.

    Imagine going from 70 a week to 150 million total. It does not matter if it's dollar or pound, it's amazing
  20. Jan_Solo Jedi Master

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    Apr 26, 2002
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    I just noticed an interesting BLOOPER:

    In the first movie Harry Potter has green eyes, but in the second movie he has blue eyes.

    How do you explain THAT, Rao and the other Harry-lovers?!
    8-}
  21. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Harry potter has green eyes

    Daniel Radcliffe ( the boy who plays him on the movie) does not.

    The contact lenses irritated his eyes and they had to discontinue using them.

    Now Bogger Off.
  22. CanelloniFamilySucks Jedi Padawan

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    Apr 30, 2003
    Bueno acabo de leer en otro foro que para el otoño de este año EA Sports va a sacar on World Quiddich Championship Game para todas las consolas!

    Los jugadores van a tener la opción de jugar como cualquiera de las casas de Hogwarts, y también jugar el Quidditch Cup con equipos de distintos paises! Bulgaria va a contar con la presencia de Victor Krum como seeker!

    EA Sports es en mi opinión el mejor desarrollador de juegos de deportes, así que espero solo lo mejor. 'tis realy exciting!
  23. Rao Jedi Knight

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    That's wonderful news!

    51 days
  24. Rao Jedi Knight

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  25. Rao Jedi Knight

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    Relacion entre Harry Potter y la novela picarezca..

    Esta escrito en primera persona

    Harry es Huerfano

    A pasado por muchos amos esto esta alado un poco por los pelos pero bare with me : sus padres, Dumbledore, Dursleys, Weasleys, Sirius Black

    En vez de ser converso de judio es criado como Muggle y por ende tiene adaptarse al mundo de magos y peor aun vive con los Dursleys donde ser mago le trae mas prejuicio que a muchos conversos de judio.

    El personaje principal es un niño = lo unico que aunque va perdiendo su inocencia poco a poco va creciendo para mejorar en vez de ir decayendo moralmente para sobrevivir.
    Lamentable como parezca existe una gran posibilidad de que muera al final de la saga.

    What do ypu think of this?
    Discuss
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