Welcome to Jurrasic Park! (The JP3 discussion thread)

Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu, Jul 3, 2001.

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  1. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Master

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    I know, I know. JP3 is technically not an LFL film. But it is an ILM project, which is a Lucas property.

    This thread is devoted to discussing JP3 (or any of the JP movies if you wish).

    You are now in the Visitor center. We have three "paddocks". The JP paddock, the Lost World Paddock, and the JP3 paddock.

    There may be spoilers in the JP3 paddock, so beware...

    In the JP3 paddock, the first thing I wanna discuss is the rumored cameo at the end of Jurassic Park 3. I personally hope it is Roland Tembo. I think he's one of the best characters in the Jurassic Park films. Spoilers (highlight to read): This is why I think it may be Tembo. The next to last track on the JP3 soundtrack is entitle something like "Return of the Man in the Hat". That leads me to believe that it may either be Tembo, or Hammond. . End spoilers.

    What cameo would you all like to see?

  2. The_Wampa Jedi Knight

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    Jun 29, 2001
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    The second on sucks. This movie will be better because the original people are coming back.
  3. Tellesto Jedi Grand Master

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    I hear that it still sucks...

    The ILM effects look very nicely done though.
  4. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Master

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    Agreed, the Lost Word sucked. Here's my problems with TLW:

    -Too much out-of-place humor in tense situations
    -the inclusion of the kid
    -the whole "Dinos come to USA" end sequence. Loses the mystery of the fact that JP could happen without us knowing about it, and there were too many plotholes in this sequence (like the severed arm in the ship bridge. How did the T-rex get in there?)

    But from what I've read, JP3 is supposed to be pretty good. Apparently its a darker mover than the first two.
  5. KaaShamau Jedi Master

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    Aug 15, 2000
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    The Spino-thingy-saurus looks cool!
  6. DarthMaul13 Jedi Youngling

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    JP3 has a kid.

    No more DAMN KIDS!!!

    EDIT:

    Judging from the commercials and trailers, it seems the same old scenarios are being rehashed.

    1) Characters being thrown around in a vehicle while attacked by a large carnivore.

    Examples:

    JP - T-Rex attacking suvs with kids in it.

    TLW - 2 T-Rexs attacking trailer.

    JP3 - Spinosarus attacking crashed plane.

    2) Raptors showing up during the second half of film.

    3) NERDY scientific warnings about dinos by the group genius.

    4) Running from vegie dinos.

    Examples:

    JP - Grant and the kids running from the flock of dinos

    JP3 - Grant and company running from the flock of dinos.

    5) Carnivores fighting each other.

    Examples:

    JP - T-Rex attackes raptors at climax.

    TLW - Two raptors attack each other at gas station.

    JP3 - T-Rex and Spinosaurus have a rumble.
  7. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Master

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    Judging by the script, this kid's role is different from the others. In other words, I don't think he'll be annoying.

    They do some creative things with the dinosaurs in this movie, unlike TLW. Particularly the raptors, pteradons, and Spinosauras. I think that's the whole point of this kind of genre. It's not neccessarily the overall plot, but how intricately you can use the creatures to create excitement
  8. Indy2 Jedi Master

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    Aug 22, 2000
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    TLW sucked cause Sam Neill was not in it........JP3 looks like the sequel; that should have been made....
  9. PloKloon1138 Jedi Master

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    Apr 5, 2001
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    These were my problems with TLW:

    1. Julianne Moore. Never really liked her.

    2. The story. Very much unlike Jurassic Park. I hope JP3 feels more like the original.

    3. No Sam Neill.

    Well, at least 2 of those 3 won't be involved with JP3. JP3 and Planet of the Apes are 2 films that I've been looking forward to for a while, and I hope they don't disappoint.
  10. DoctorZaius Jedi Knight

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    Apr 13, 2001
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    has anyone read the Lost World novel?
    it is much better then the movie. it has almost a completely differnt plot.

    JP3 looks pretty cool from the small amount i've seen and heard about it.
  11. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Master

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    IMO, the Jurassic Park novel was better than the JP movie. But they changed some things so it would make a better 2-hour film.

    But you're right about the Lost World: the book was way better than the movie.

    BTW, JP3 is the first JP film made not to be based on a book (though I'm sure there will be a novellization, not done by Crichton). From what I've read, it looks like JP3 is similar to the Lost World novel in ways. But I think JP3 will have - by far - the best action sequences of the 3 movies.

  12. chimp2k1 Jedi Knight

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    Here's my take on the movies (and books).

    I saw JP five times at the cinema- I was only small and at least three of these were friends' and my own birthday parties- and it has been one of my favourite films of all time since.

    The Michael Crichton novel was very good, but I don't think it worked as well as the film.

    I was horribly disappointed by TLW, particularly as I had been looking forward to it and had already enjoyed the novel (a far superior story). Spielberg largely ignored Crichton's novel and this had an obviously adverse effect. TLW should have gone a little darker, as the novel had, and the T-Rex rampaging through people's back gardens should have been cut completely.

    I have not yet seen JP3 (it's not out for another week this side of the pond) but what I have seen has got me pretty excited again- I hope I'm not disappointed this time.
  13. EagleIFilms Jedi Grand Master

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    I think JPIII will most likely suck unless Mike Crichton was involved...was he?

    I also think the JPIII web site sucks. I wanna download a trailer, not play game!

    I also think I will see the movie 50 times and buy the DVD, so it doesn't matter.
  14. Jedi_Tin-Buk_Tu Jedi Master

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    Crichton has nothing to do with JP3. There's not even a novelization for it. But Crichton's involvement is not critical. Remember "Congo"?

    The TLW ending was a joke. It completely ruined the mystery of Jurassic Park. They should've stuck with the Pteradons.
  15. yodaman Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, I actually got a chance to see this film. I wasn't too impressed, though I thought it was better than TLW. It seemed a little short and didn't feel like anything of real importance happened. The original still stands as the best. I didn't find this movie that interesting.
  16. Darth Tunes SfC Part III Commissioner

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    I happen to like TLW, and despite the fact that it was no near to the level of the first film, I found it to be vey enjoyable, and I got a feeling that JP3 won't be bad at all. The effects look great, and Sam Neil is back!
  17. EagleIFilms Jedi Grand Master

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    yoda...no spoilers! Please!
  18. solojones Chosen One

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    I Saw JP3 on opening day! Not only that but I got to see it on one of the 10 digital projection units.

    Some people will dislike this movie, but I for one loved it. I won't spoil it unless you want me to.


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    the only cameo is Ellie Sattler.... ooooh, that one could make some people very mad... ask me if you want to know specifics
  19. DoctorZaius Jedi Knight

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    i saw JP3 last night.
    i found it an enjoyable movie but it ended way to soon. i would have enjoyed a bigger final confrontation with the raptors (maybe revealing something really cool about them) but instead we are left with a pretty weak ending. It didn't seem to go anywhere or reveal anything. The movie was just about more dinosaurs killing more people.
  20. Oakessteve Manager Emeritus

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    Jurassic Park III was a brilliantly entertaining film. Yeah, it wasn't very challenging, but was the first one? If you want some good entertainment, I definitely recommend going to see it. It's jolly good! Hmmm...that sounded bit too much like an advert, didn't it?
  21. Dubya_Fett Jedi Knight

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    Is it just me, or was that director Steve Soderbergh in a cameo at the end? On second thought, it could be any geeky-looking guy with glasses.

    -Dubya Fett
    Fettism of the Day: "I survived the Jedi purge and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
  22. HanSolo29 Manager Emeritus + Official Star Wars Artist

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    I saw the movie Thursday night and I thought it was awesome. I liked the storyline in this one and I actually thought it was better than the original. One thing bothered me though, it was too short. One minute I'm sitting in the theatre waiting for it to start and before I know it, the credits are rolling. Other than that, it's an excellant movie.
  23. Mateo Jedi Master

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    I wonder if Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan could survive a battle with those big dinosaurs in Jurrasic Park? a couple T-Rex's charge them while they are walking through the park and catch them off guard, the jedi would be screwed but Darth Maul would survive.
  24. Dubya_Fett Jedi Knight

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    I thought "Jurassic Park" was excellent, and the "The Lost World: Jurassic Park" was okay but still entertaining. "Jurassic Park III" was not nearly as good as the first but an improvement on the second. I can't say much for the plot or the character development, but the cast was good (great seeing the underappreciated Sam Niell again) and director Joe Johnston did some new and imaginative things within the same old formula. Lots of action, humour, and suspense. Plenty of what I call "Oh cr@p!" moments. The film is rather short at only 90 minutes, but rather efficient in its execution. "Jurassic Park III" could use a "special edition" with extra footage (where's that Ankylosaur vs. Velociraptors fight they talked about?), but it's better that we are left wanting more than wanting less.

    -Dubya Fett
    Fettism of the Day: "Rejected 'Star Wars' licensed product #901: The Phillip Morris 'Sound Like Darth Vader' Cigarette Smoking Starter Kit."
  25. JMaster Luke Force Ghost

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    I saw the movie and i thought it was a good movie too. But like others said to short and no good ending. I don't know why people are putting down TLW. The ending was GREAT. I was hoping the the WHOLE JP3 would be about the dino's in the city. But at least we got a peak at that in JP2.
    I thought JP3 had a GREAT potential of ending really cool if

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    IF the Big Dino attacked the Marines at the end. Then that would of been GREAT. Even better then the ending of JP2. Oh well other then the ending i thought it was good.
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