CT Were Vader and Sidious the only Sith at this time?

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  1. Darth Ruian Jedi Youngling

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    I was just kidding :p
  2. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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  3. DarthLazious28273 Jedi Youngling

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    It was just Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader.
  4. IndyRedLeader Jedi Padawan

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    Darth Vader: He is here.
    Grand Moff Tarkin: Obi-Wan Kenobi? What makes you think so?
    Vader: A tremor in the Force. The last time I felt it was in the presence of my old master.
    Tarkin: Surely he must be dead by now.
    Vader: Don't underestimate the Force.
    Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.
  5. Grievousdude Jedi Master

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    Do the Imperial Inquisitors in the Coruscant Nights series count as Sith?
  6. K'Kruhk Jedi Grand Master

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    No.
  7. Grievousdude Jedi Master

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    What would they count as then? They are trained in the ways of the Dark Side.
  8. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    "Dark Jedi"
    "Force Adepts"
    "Dark Side using Force adepts"

    or whatever the author favours. They've never been taught in depth, about the dark side techniques that only Sith know- hence they aren't usually called Sith.

    The Emperor had a whole bunch of them on Byss- where he taught them the basics of dark side use- but not the best stuff.
  9. Grievousdude Jedi Master

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    Ah I see now thinks for clearing that up.
  10. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    Don't forget about his Emperor's Hands :)
  11. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Yup- I was thinking of a looser term- something that covers Inquisitors and Hands alike.
  12. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    Imperial Dark Force or something along those lines.
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  13. Iron_lord Chosen One

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  14. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    That works well enough.
  15. Chewbacca89 Force Ghost

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    Lost Tribe was around....
  16. The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Grand Master

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  17. Darth_Nub Saga, Classic Trilogy and Film Music Manager

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    EU & PT aside, the novelisation of SW hints at there being other Sith Lords around, as does the shooting script. In earlier drafts (the film is basically Draft 4) there's actually other, un-named Sith Lords present in several scenes - in Draft 3 Vader seems to be the one in charge.

    - The Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, Third Draft

    - Star Wars: The Adventures of Luke Starkiller (Revised Fourth Draft)

    - Vader's entrance, Star Wars novelisation


    It's all just implication, but there's nothing in the OT, or anything from the OT era, to suggest that there aren't any other Sith around. The Rule of Two seems to be something GL came up with in the 1990s when he was writing the PT.

    In Draft 2, the actual backstory of the Sith is outlined:

    - Adventures of the Starkiller (episode 1) 'The Star Wars'
    (Second draft, Jan 28, 1975)
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  18. Yunners Force Ghost

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    All Sith are dark side users, but not all dark-siders are Sith.
  19. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Today's episode of The Clone Wars called Ventress a Sith.
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  20. Yunners Force Ghost

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    Wasn't she Dooku's apprentice at one point? I think it's technically true. Or was, before she was tossed aside and left for dead.
  21. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Don't the Sith have a rule for that sort of thing?
  22. Yunners Force Ghost

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    Yeah, which is why Palpatine forced Dooku to give her up, as it were.
  23. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    And I doubt he considered her a Sith. What's her Darth name?
  24. Yunners Force Ghost

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    I don't think she took one, tbh. I imagine it would have been Darth Picard, Darth Kojak, or Darth Brenner.
  25. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Copyright infringement!
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