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CT Were Vader and Sidious the only Sith at this time?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Darth Ruian, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Darth Ruian

    Darth Ruian Jedi Youngling

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    I was just kidding :p
     
  2. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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  3. DarthLazious28273

    DarthLazious28273 Jedi Youngling

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    It was just Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader.
     
  4. IndyRedLeader

    IndyRedLeader Jedi Youngling

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    Darth Vader: He is here.
    Grand Moff Tarkin: Obi-Wan Kenobi? What makes you think so?
    Vader: A tremor in the Force. The last time I felt it was in the presence of my old master.
    Tarkin: Surely he must be dead by now.
    Vader: Don't underestimate the Force.
    Tarkin: The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.
     
  5. Grievousdude

    Grievousdude Jedi Master star 4

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    Do the Imperial Inquisitors in the Coruscant Nights series count as Sith?
     
  6. K'Kruhk

    K'Kruhk Jedi Master star 4

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    No.
     
  7. Grievousdude

    Grievousdude Jedi Master star 4

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    What would they count as then? They are trained in the ways of the Dark Side.
     
  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    "Dark Jedi"
    "Force Adepts"
    "Dark Side using Force adepts"

    or whatever the author favours. They've never been taught in depth, about the dark side techniques that only Sith know- hence they aren't usually called Sith.

    The Emperor had a whole bunch of them on Byss- where he taught them the basics of dark side use- but not the best stuff.
     
  9. Grievousdude

    Grievousdude Jedi Master star 4

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    Ah I see now thinks for clearing that up.
     
  10. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Don't forget about his Emperor's Hands :)
     
  11. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Yup- I was thinking of a looser term- something that covers Inquisitors and Hands alike.
     
  12. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Imperial Dark Force or something along those lines.
     
  13. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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  14. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    That works well enough.
     
  15. Chewbacca89

    Chewbacca89 Jedi Master star 5

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    Lost Tribe was around....
     
  16. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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  17. Darth_Nub

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    EU & PT aside, the novelisation of SW hints at there being other Sith Lords around, as does the shooting script. In earlier drafts (the film is basically Draft 4) there's actually other, un-named Sith Lords present in several scenes - in Draft 3 Vader seems to be the one in charge.

    - The Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, Third Draft

    - Star Wars: The Adventures of Luke Starkiller (Revised Fourth Draft)

    - Vader's entrance, Star Wars novelisation


    It's all just implication, but there's nothing in the OT, or anything from the OT era, to suggest that there aren't any other Sith around. The Rule of Two seems to be something GL came up with in the 1990s when he was writing the PT.

    In Draft 2, the actual backstory of the Sith is outlined:

    - Adventures of the Starkiller (episode 1) 'The Star Wars'
    (Second draft, Jan 28, 1975)
     
  18. Yunners

    Yunners Jedi Master star 2

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    All Sith are dark side users, but not all dark-siders are Sith.
     
  19. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Today's episode of The Clone Wars called Ventress a Sith.
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Yunners

    Yunners Jedi Master star 2

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    Wasn't she Dooku's apprentice at one point? I think it's technically true. Or was, before she was tossed aside and left for dead.
     
  21. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Don't the Sith have a rule for that sort of thing?
     
  22. Yunners

    Yunners Jedi Master star 2

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    Yeah, which is why Palpatine forced Dooku to give her up, as it were.
     
  23. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    And I doubt he considered her a Sith. What's her Darth name?
     
  24. Yunners

    Yunners Jedi Master star 2

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    I don't think she took one, tbh. I imagine it would have been Darth Picard, Darth Kojak, or Darth Brenner.
     
  25. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Copyright infringement!