What classes of ship are the Widowmaker and Selonia?

It's been awhile since they were discribed in FH1.

 

Well, the Widowmaker is an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.

But I'm not sure about the Selonia. I dont remember......

 

Wasn't the Selona an Assult Frigate??

 

Death Stars.






I'm pretty sure that they're both frigates. I've loaned out my copies of Remnant and Refugee, so I have no way of checking that. I'm pretty sure that Widowmaker is not a Star Destroyer.

 

So, Nebulon B's?

 

Likely. Selonia might be a later-model KDY Corona-class line frigate.

 

I'm pretty sure that Widowmaker is not a Star Destroyer.

From the Unofficial SW Encyclopedia:

Widowmaker
this Imperial-class Star Destroyer was part of the fleet which protected the Imperial Remnant, during the years following the peace treaty signed between the Empire and the New Republic. It was under the command of Arien Yage during the early stages of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the galaxy, during which time Captain Yage remained loyal to Grand Admiral Gilad Pellaeon. After the Battle of Borosk, Captain Yage volunteered her crew and the Widowmaker to escort Luke Skywalker's mission into the Unknown Regions to locate the mysterious planet of Zonama Sekot. Grand Admiral Pellaeon agreed to the proposal.

I'm sure it's wrong.

 

The Widowmaker is a frigate, most likely Nebulon-B class. The Pride of Selonia is a re-commisioned Lancer frigate.

[Edit] That is wrong. "If you beat us there, look for Captain Arien Yage of the frigate Widowmaker. Remnant page 119.

 

Here to the rescue!

Widowmaker is a frigate; we are not told the type.

Pride of Selonia is a Lancer Frigate.

His job done, he soars away . . .

 

Thanks.

 

Ahh. Another continuity flub. Unless of course, we're talking about another Star Frigate like the one we saw in RotJ...



- The Imperial Ewok

 

Ahh. Another continuity flub. Unless of course, we're talking about another Star Frigate like the one we saw in RotJ...

No, it's not a continuity flub. The Unofficial Encyclopedia isn't official.

 

So simply change Imp-class to what is most likely Nebulon-B-class, in that entry.

When a frigate is just called frigate, it's always a Nebulon-B Escort class.

Considering it's not going to be a Carllion customs frigate. There have been many past examples of a nameless class frigate in previous books, one of which is Shield of Lies; there, we were only told the frigate Bloodprice at first, then later on we found out it's the usual KDY escort.

 

When a frigate is just called frigate, it's always a Nebulon-B Escort class.

Since when is this the rule?

Considering it's not going to be a Carllion customs frigate. There have been many past examples of a nameless class frigate in previous books, one of which is Shield of Lies; there, we were only told the frigate Bloodprice at first, then later on we found out it's the usual KDY escort.

There are many other types of frigates other than Nebulon-B or Corellian customs frigates.

 

Since when is it a rule that all mentioned frigates are Nebulon B class?

Since EU writers have no imagination.

 

Whoops, didn't see the Lancer-class notation in Remnant - you sure that's what it was? Lancers don't have a hangar bay capable of holding starfighters, max capacity is something like two Lambda shuttles.

 

Sureeeee. Though I have seen ships mentioned to be frigates and then revealed later that they are Lancer-class frigates, not Nebulon-Bs.

 

Well, what we know about the Widowmaker is that she's:
1) old
2) capable of carrying 12 TIEs of indeterminate type and at least one Sentinel-class landing craft.
This sure implies Nebulon B-class to me. She could be a Nebulon B-2-class, but the implications that she's old seem to suggest that she's a Nebbie. In all fairness, though, the Nebulon B-2 is getting up there in years as well.

 

They've probably had upgrades from the standard factory design.

maybe allowing them to have small super lasers fitted

 

Alion_Sangre, that caught my attention too. Lancers don't have much hangar spave for so many ships, just a few shuttlecraft. This, going by EGVV.

Then again, the Rogue Squadron novel said Lancers had exceptional speed. EGVV said their sublight was quite slow.

There are differences, but only in the words used.

Nom Anor, that has always been the case. Just look at the scores of SW novels out there, the quantity of "frigates" used, and how many turn out to be "Nebulon-B" later. My example above was just one; there are others.

What other frigates were you thinking of, incidentally? But whatever types you give, they have to have been used in novels, not comp games.

Since Assualt Frigates are retrofitted Dreadnoughts the Imperial navy would never employ them. Doesn't mean they might not, though. Star Frigates have never been used. Customs frigates/corvettes are ruled out. Nebulon-B2s also haven't seen paper pages.

Therefore, Widowmaker was Nebulon-B.

 

wasn't the widowmaker that old broke-down ship saba and danni take to the slave vessel? Why couldn't it be a gutted lancer that had extra room for fighters?

 

No, that was an old dreadnaught--Braxtant Brave IIRC.

 

D'oh
Eh, I'll try to salvage what I said by pointing out that it wouldn't be impossible to modify a ship to carry extra ties. Cubber and Kell turned a dinky little corvette from a 4 tie carrier into a ship that could carry a landing craft and over a squad of fighters.

 

Well, there are three classes of KDY frigates - the Rebellion-era Nebulon-B and -B2 frigates used by both sides (the -B2 is my favorite small cap ship) and the NR-era Corona-class line frigate from "Cracken's Threat Dossier." There's also the Lancer-class and the standard Customs frigate, which is a really small ship.