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PT What do people have against darth vader building c3po?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Lord Tyrannus, Oct 26, 2012.

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  1. MrFantastic74

    MrFantastic74 Jedi Knight star 4

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    Obi-Wan: "The Emperor knew, as I did, that if Anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him."

    The Emperor was also a threat. If he found out about Anakin's offspring, wouldn't Tatooine be the first place he would look?
     
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  2. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    A little?:p
     
  3. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    It makes total sense to me that Anakin built C-3PO because what you guys are calling coincidence has a very simple explanation: C-3PO never left the possession of the Skywalker/Organa family!
     
  4. Lord Tyrannus

    Lord Tyrannus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How would Anakin's offspring be a threat to the Emperor/Darth Vader?

    Who is "him"? Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker or the Emperor?

    How was the Emperor a threat to Luke and Leia? Did he want to make them Sith lords and tyrants and dictators, kill them, torture them, what??? Paranoid about them??

    Why did Obi wan Kenobi give the Skywalker twins to adoptive parents? Why not their real parents? Padme died, but their biological real father was still alive, as Darth Vader...

    And, for whatever reason the Skywalker twins needed to be kept hidden from their real father Darth Vader, why not keep them together? With the same adopted parents? Why seperate them? Give the twins to Owen and Beru Lars, or give them to the Organa family... But keep them together, why not???
     
  5. MrFantastic74

    MrFantastic74 Jedi Knight star 4

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    Because the Force runs strong in Luke's family. Offspring of Anakin could be trained to be Jedi, and thus would be a threat. And yes, the "him" is the Emperor, who fears losing his power, and by extension, those who threaten his power.

    Yes, he would most likely kill them, but he could also try to bend them to his will and have them become his apprentices.

    Why the flip would Obi-Wan hand over the Skywalker twins to Darh Freakin' Vader?! "Oh, just look at these innocent babies. They belong with their Daddy. Who cares if they will become slaves to the Emperor and wreck havoc in the galaxy. It's the right thing to do." Nope. Come on. Are you serious?

    And keeping them separated was a smart move. It was to minimize the likelihood that both children would be located.
     
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  6. FunintheSun

    FunintheSun Jedi Padawan

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    I'm going to play devil's advocate on this, even though I see the logical reasoning why 3PO could have come from another source and why there should have been a different planet Luke and Ben resided.

    On the 3PO issue, C3PO and R2D2 were followed too closely in the OT to make them random beings in the PT. Now to me, if any characters were shoehorned in the PT, it was Chewbacca and arguably Boba Fett. They really had no reason to be there. Boba's storyline could have been worked in with a random character and Chewbacca's served no purpose plotwise, logistically, or in character development.

    On the planet, Vader didn't know the child was alive, nor did they know Obi Wan was alive. That's why Luke could go to Tatooine instead of to a stranger family. As far as Vader and practically everyone else knew, Padme died before she had the child. But no, they weren't going to give Vader's children to him, for obvious reasons that don't need to be addressed.
     
  7. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Tell that to the Jawas.;)
     
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  8. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I meant until ANH, but if you're joking, I like your joke.
     
  9. SithStarSlayer

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  10. Lord Tyrannus

    Lord Tyrannus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Would the twins have been killed or turned over to the Darkside of the Force and become Sith Lords/Sith Ladies? Which one?

    I had an idea/theory. If Obi wan kenobi never cut off Anakin Skywalker's arms and legs, Anakin would've killed the Emperor and saved the galaxy. It was Obi wan kenobi's fault that the galactic empire existed!!!
     
  11. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Anakin was more than a little arrogant at that point. He thought he could kill the Emperor, but may have been overestimating himself, and underestimating just how tricky the Emperor was.
     
  12. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Anakin could have killed the emperor once he got strong enough and learned enough from Palps if he didn't turn crispy.
     
  13. artooo

    artooo Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yeah, that would be almost as silly as a nine year old boy taking down the flagship of a droid space fleet just by accident....oh wait. Nevermind....
     
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  14. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Would love to see DarkHorse bust out with THAT Infinities story before Disney shuts em down.
     
  15. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Not accident, the Force. "Nothing happens by accident" - Qui-Gon, same film
     
  16. TOSCHESTATION

    TOSCHESTATION Jedi Master star 4

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    "The Force" here in this instance = "Get-Plot-Out-of-Jail-Free-Card".

    Now, compare and contrast TPM's Anakin "The Force Made Me Do It!!!" Skywalker, with SW/ANH's Luke Skywalker vis-a-vis the Death Star.
    Luke made a decision to use the Force. Anakin in TPM, by contrast, says "whoops!!!". [face_laugh]

    Also, let's not forget this scene from SW:

    Ben: "Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing through him."
    Luke: "You mean it controls your actions?"
    Ben: "Partially. But it also obeys your commands. "

    Note that Ben, in response to Luke's question, did NOT say:
    "YOU GOT THE RIGHT ONE BAY-BAY-BAY-BAY-BE!!!! UH-HUH!!!!"
     
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  17. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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  19. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    You can't really be that stupid, can you?

    Luke and Leia are extremely strong in the force like their father. The fact that the emperor tries to kill Luke in ROTJ after he refuses to give in is evidence enough how much of a threat Luke is.
     
  20. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    Kindof surprising they haven't already tried that, hell, even with the ROTS game where the alternate ending have Vader kill Obi-wan and the Emperor and take over would make for an interesting infinity comic..
     
  21. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I agree..
     
  22. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As long as its a little while after Mustafar, yes... and no suit while we're at it.;)
     
  23. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I would read that with great interest.
     
  24. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And no, I don't want some FANFIC version either...:p
     
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  25. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fortunately, the PT doesn't explain every little detail and introduces quite a few puzzles of its own:

    - The feel of the ancient history behind the Republic, Jedi Order and the Sith. The Sith want their revenge, the Jedi claim the Sith were the oppressors...
    - The prophecy - was it misread or not?
    - Darth Plageuis - did he really achieve immortality? Could he have created Anakin by manipulating the infamous midichlorians?
    - Why was Qui-Gon at odds with the Council? Was he the only adherent of the "Living force" doctrine?
    - What's involved in the Jedi Trial? (they're mentioned, but never shown).
     
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