Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Seagoat, Dec 21, 2013.
The story, the Imperial March, Vader's revalation to Luke in TESB, the Luke vs Darth Vader & Palpatine scenes, and Vader/Anakin's redemption. I love how the ending of ROTJ concludes the Whole Saga perfectly.
It would be so much easier to list the stuff I don't like, because listing the stuff I *do* like could take all day, but I'll try to keep it brief….
I like the practical effects, the music, Luke's speeder, the Millennium Falcon, and that cool box with the light saber in Obi Wan's hut. I like how imposing and evil Vader is, how sexy and cool Han Solo is, and how Leia seems to be one of the best shots in the entire trilogy (pay attention-- I'm serious!). I love how Yoda is adorable, yet he's also wise and commands respect. I love Luke and how he fils me with the inexplicable urge to wrap him in a big platonic hug. Chewie makes me wish my dog walked on his hind legs. I also wish I had a speeder bike, a light saber, and those cool binocular things Luke uses in ANH. I love Leia's bounty hunter disguise. And Luke's outfit in ANH looks so comfortable, I think if I owned it I would wear it exclusively on "Hangover Sundays". Taun-tauns are cool. Imperial Walkers might be even cooler.The carbonite scene is one of my favorite movie scenes ever. Not just in the trilogy, but EVER.
Oh, and Harrison Ford is so completely hot. I think I already alluded to that, but I thought it was worth bringing up again.
Beauty is . . . strategic imperfection.
That's one take on beauty I heard recently.
I think you can find that in both trilogies; the charm is how each trilogy -- in my opinion -- goes about expressing it.
I do like the sense of a fallen world that's presented in the OT; or that the OT presents (subtle distinction).
That and Luke's story. Which is also Anakin's story Part II. And the story of how the Jedi undergo a metamorphosis, or a transfiguration, or a rebirth.
That's some immensely powerful stuff happening right there. And it's told with something approaching an exultant, erotic charge. The imagery, the intercutting, the characters, the locales; and, of course, the music.
It's a much sparser and more rough-hewn trilogy than the PT, is the beloved OT, but that gives it a quiet power and a certain authority that might be lacking in the other. It's a bit more "zen"; and a bit more "punk". Punk-zen?
I can't say I enjoy it quite as much as the PT, all told, but I do appreciate that it's there, the wonderful gem of cinema it is, and the sense of it "holding on", in light of all the digital innovations of the PT and every other blockbuster of the past 10-20 years, well ...... that's quite moving in its own right, I think. And it truly is amazing to ponder all the photochemical achievements of the OT. What you see on the screen, in almost every instance, was achieved either in-camera or with classical optical techniques. Incredible.
And it really is a bit more "raw" than all the other blockbuster entertainments out there. Like: still! It seems incapable of being surpassed. Can anything truly measure up to Luke staring at the twin suns on Tatooine, hanging off the weather-vane on Cloud City, or realizing at the last second he is becoming his own father and choosing to resist the Emperor's taunts above in the DS II, thus leading to his father's own awakening? I think not.
Almost everything. Don't like the ewoks mainly. Everything else is great.
The fact that you have "Han shot first" in your sig suggests that you don't like everything
I meant the OT in its untarnished version
Now now... I would personally use the term "unimproved", however let's just treat this as a subjective thing and say unmodified
Ok, the unmodified version
Il put it this way folks
Whats not to like ?!
Everything more or less. The story all comes together in such an incredible way over the course of the trilogy and it's all enhanced immensely by the writing, directing, acting and special effects, all of which blend together to make it all work.
I can't fault the OT in any shape or form... until 1997.... *shudders*
What is not to like? Everything was magical and is still awesome.
Everything. I have even grown over the years to appreciate the Ewoks. I was critical of them as a result of my immaturity in the past.
In the middle of watching ESB right now - at the scene where Han is carbon frozen. Chewbacca puts his hands on Leia's shoulders and she clings to him. So touching.
Then why are you here?
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There are many things to love in the OT. I suppose I'll just list a few.
The incredibly well-developed characters. They feel real. They have real struggles. They joke around with each other and get mad at each other and flirt with each other like real people.
I love the classic story telling. The story can be boiled down to basically a young, coming-of-age boy setting off to save the galaxy with the help of a mentor. But the elements of the scifi genre and the western genre heavily inspired this film and definitely plays as a strength. These films are almost an homage to classic filmmaking in general. There are bits taken from movies such as The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly and films like Frankenstein by Universal.
The dramatic climax of the saga: the redemption of Vader. Is it not truly touching? It pulls at my heart strings.
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I was watching ANH last night and I really enjoyed the pacing. I know it's often regarded as a bit ponderous by today's standards but I really enjoyed the leisurely way in which the story unfolded and the lack of the apparent need to hurry up and have some action before the audience loses interest.
Ponderous is a good thing. The current generations have largely grown very impatient with things like depth and decent story telling. The OT has that. It's much more *real* in essence than the PT.