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Lit What elements of the EU should be in the Sequel Trilogy?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Allana_Rey, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I think...

    -- Luke being the leader of the New Jedi Order.

    -- There being a New Republic.

    -- Mara-Jade is Luke's wife, but don't have her be a former assassin. Also include Ben as their son.

    -- Have Leia and Han be married with Jacen, Jaina and Anakin. Also have them be Grandparents to Allana.

    -- Leia being a New Republic Senator.
     
  2. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    -- Cal Omas played by Steve Martin.
     
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  3. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Or, Cal Omas should be constantly referred to, but never actually shown on screen.
     
  4. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  5. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think these are all pretty likely. I'm sure it will mirror the more recent EU and have both the NJO and NR mirror their PT counterparts very closely, as well. I.e., Luke having Yoda's old chair in the Jedi Temple, Leia being Supreme Chancellor of the New Republic.

    Han and Leia being married and having Jedi kids who are the main characters? Almost definitely. Them being the same characters as in the EU...somewhat less likely. The same with Luke being married and having a kid of his own.
     
  6. Sith93Apprentice

    Sith93Apprentice Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I Think that Legacy is the best candidate, although when I was listening to the audio and thought about the scenes and such it really felt like it was written to be aTV serial. Now, I really liked the idea of doing a serial between Ep 3 & 4, especially if it would show more of the development of the Alliance, Fett, etc but Legacy would be really good if adapted to TV. FOTJ would also make a good serial especially since it has so many arcs that lead to nowhere. I think of the EU material I know, Legacy is the best candidate and I would love to see more of the Lost Tribe, Ben, Vestara and all the kids doing something, but Legacy has a little bit of everything to please everyone. I really disliked Mara getting killed almost as much as I disliked Vestara getting the punt as a cheap villain but not quite. I think there's enough in Legacy please everyone and if it only had the Lost Tribe, some depth to Sith culture that wasn't corny and unlikely Sith anti-hero allies of the New Jedi Order, it would be perfect.See, the whole thing about Sith is that they are an invisible Order, some fractured and in-fighting and some coordinated. I never liked the idea of just 2. Writers need to pick up on the concept that only 2 may be visible to each other at a time, ie, Master and Apprentice but this doesn't mean that only 2 exist in actuality. That's how espionage and secret societies tend to work anyway. The Jedi have the advantage of position, so they can be visible in large numbers, but my take is that during the Order 66 days, they very much should have hidden and passed knowledge on just like Sith. There is no morality in doing so, and that would make Luke's story a glimpse into this activity, but not the absolute truth. I think Jason makes a good super villain and we know other Sith exist during his time. There's no reason a viewer can't assume the omniscient perspective and be aware of differing or competing Sith factions while the characters do not. I actually really liked Mara as a Jedi who began as an assassin. It gave her character. This is why I really liked the idea of Ben's girlfriend starting Sith and later Turning Jedi. We always here about some Jedi who goes dark, but never a Sith who goes light after she started that way. I think Mara was a good idea and when she was sacrificed for shock and awe I felt it left her place in the pantheon vacant. I actually wanted the very thing Denning said he was trying to avoid by making Vestara into another Mara Jade. So what? Instead he made her another Lumyah. Now that was not original at all.
     
  7. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Ughh... we can keep the entire EU, people. We probably will, with just a few contradictions to be retconned (like what happened with the PT). That doesn't mean everything needs to be referenced, though.
     
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  8. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    -Jaina, Jacen Anakin (Won't happen), Ben, Allana, Jag, Zek, Tenel Ka, Tahiri, Lowie.
    Anakin Solo won't happen because us the fans might get him mixed up with Anakin Skywalker. 'Rolls eyes'
    -Bring in all or most of the Aliens from the post ROTJ EU.
    -Yuuzhan Vong! At least one thud bug, ampistaff and coralskipper
    -Tie Fighter variants
    -Other Force groups
     
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  9. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I wanted to believe this, but it's very unlikely. I think that the EU truly will become a parallel universe as some already perceive it to be.
     
  10. Grey1

    Grey1 Host: 181st Imperial Discussion Group star 4 VIP

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    From a certain point of view, the ST will be the parallel universe. How many people who spent the last 20 years following the adventures of Luke and the New Republic will be able to simply accept a totally different version of the story as "more definitive", even if they intellectually tell you that Lucas' version is king? You can't undo that amount of memories, not even by drinking. Look at Obi-Wan, his trips to the cantina only resulted in mixing up a few details of the prequel story, not in forgetting all of it. Okay, looking at Yoda, maybe swamp gas will help you forget.
     
  11. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I suppose you're right. The ST will always evoke thoughts such as "ah, remember when that happened in book"; it's tied forever to the Bantam and Del Rey novels in my mind. The same situation is TCW rehashing the old Clone Wars multimedia project, throughout the Mon Cala ( :p ) arc I was thinking "the micro series did this way better". Interesting times ahead, for sure.
     
  12. Darth_Kevin

    Darth_Kevin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If Lei is a Senator 20-30 years later, she has not progressed much from a career standpoint. Wasn't she an Imperial senator?

    I have a feeling they'll have Leia Jedi trained much earlier.
     
  13. agentkrycek

    agentkrycek Jedi Knight star 2

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    In the case of Leia, I really hope the ST ignores the EU and doesn't throw her back into politics. I don't get why fans want to turn her into some kind of Padme clone.

    Senator >>> Rebel >>> Jedi

    That should have been her character arc in the EU, as it was in the Original Trilogy. The only time she was ever portrayed as a politician in the movies was the opening of ANH. She was branded a traitor and then her home planet was destroyed. Her time in politics ends there. The rest of the trilogy she was a military rebel leader, and in ROTJ her character was set up to follow Luke's footsteps and learn the ways of the force. There was NOTHING whatsoever in ROTJ to ever suggest she would pick politics over becoming a Jedi.

    I hope when the ST rolls round we see Leia as a Jedi Master, and any involvement in the Senate will be along the lines of Anakin in ROTS as a representative for the Jedi Council.
     
  14. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    All of them.
     
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  15. COMPNOR

    COMPNOR Jedi Master star 3

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    A 5 mile long Super Star Destroyer.
     
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  16. JackG

    JackG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I much prefer Leia as Chief of State to Leia as Saba's apprentice; it was great to have her return to her diplomatic ways in Conviction.
     
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  17. vong333

    vong333 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Hopefully none. I want new stuff so that we can move forward in the timeline and create new stuff. Novels, comic books, and video games tend to copy and expand whats in the movies. I don't want stuff used from the EU, unless its planets and modified newer version of ships weapons and stuff like that.
     
  18. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Waru?
     
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  19. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    Don't forget his beloved queen of the stars.
     
  20. Zorkel567

    Zorkel567 Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd like everything, if possible. One thing that needs to stay is Ben Skywalker, and though I know it won't happen, I'd love to see Vestara appear too. Still hoping Apocalypse was set up for the new films, and that is why Denning said they were possibly going to treat Legacy as only a possible future, beacuse the Sequel Trilogy may mess with it.
     
  21. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Force Ghost star 6

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    But think of all the people who will be confused when there's both a Ben Kenobi and a Ben Skywalker!!! IT'S TOO CONFUSING!!! :eek:
     
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  22. Zorkel567

    Zorkel567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Didn't think about this. :p Forgot the entire movie-viewing community has a collective intelligence of about a two year old, and think people having the same first name means that they are the same person. Oh Lucas, how you doubt us...
     
  23. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Lucas has done it before though. Anakin Skywalker and Anakin Solo
     
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  24. LandoThe CapeCalrissian

    LandoThe CapeCalrissian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Umgullian BLOB RACES
     
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  25. LawgSkrak

    LawgSkrak Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Much as I love Legacy, it is the only thing I will accept being tossed out/turned into Infinities. Everything else needs to stay intact. Doesn't need to be referenced in the new movies, but no "parallel reality" bull. This isn't Star trek.