And see - thats the reason (well, ONE of the reasons) that I think the D20 system is a bad game engine. Calling on the dark side should be a serious thing, with VERY serious consiquences. You dont play around with that stuff lightly. But with the D20 system, it's all "Oh, damn. I've got another DSP. Oh well, back to the game!" I can think of no faster way to suck the drama out of the room than blowing that off.