Lit What hasn't been done in Star Wars?

I've never been a big fan of the idea of going to different galaxies even in science fiction/fantasy stories. The furthest point in your own galaxy would be considered to be about as far away as your driveway compared to the distance away another galaxy would be. There are enough stories to tell in one galaxy to worry about trying to tell stories in an entirely different one anyways.

 

The Star Wars civilization are a Type III Civilization according to astrophysicist Nikolai Kardashev which spread across or rely on the energy of an entire galaxy. And begin to expand to neighbouring galaxies or other galaxies. So we should have a rebooted OutBound Flight Project and travel to another galaxy and encouter the Yuuzhan Vong which would set stage for the Vong to be the enemy of SW Episodes X,XI and XII.

 

Last thing we need is to turn the Star Wars movies into another alien invasion story. Independence Day is available for anybody that wants to watch stuff like that.

 

Star Wars Episodes X-XII or any future SW film with an alien invasion would be much better than Independence Day because SW has faster than light starships to kick ass back at the Vong. Think about that.

 

It’s not really an Alien invasion if the two sides are pretty evenly matched on technologic on par, whilst they fight for and in an entire galaxy. You could almost call it a war among the stars… a Star War if you will

 

If the two sides were evenly matched they wouldn't be trying to invade or conquer another galaxy to begin with. Sorry but the whole invade another galaxy thing is a ludicrous idea. Definitely shouldn't happen in film and the only reason it happened in the books was because they probably took the idea of there not being anymore Sith around a little too seriously.

 

Religious reasons, as well as having pilfered their own galaxy?

You can’t take that idea to serious imho.

 

Gorefiend nobody would be stupid enough to travel to an entirely different galaxy (the thought of that is just ludicrous in itself) to conquer civilizations unless those civilizations were completely inferior to them.

And yes they did take the idea of there not being anymore Sith around too seriously. The Sith existed for thousands upon thousands of years through war after war before the Emperor. Once the Emperor died a lesser force user should have just come to power. Yes it may have seemed a little cyclical but wars are cyclical in real life anyways.

 

In case of the Vong they had two options. Stay home and die, or pick a random different galaxy out there to fly to it and subjugate that, by the time they actually showed up in the GFFA they also had no option to actually keep flying on because the journey had already taxed them to the brink of extinction.

Oh it happened, a lot in fact, it was done well exactly once.

 

The Vong sounds like a really stupid and poorly developed species. I question how they would have ever been smart enough to build the technology to gain the ability to travel to a different galaxy yet not smart enough to figure out a way to salvage or rebuild their own galaxy.

And a war happening is not a good reason for making an entire galaxy uninhabital.

 

They are not. Thankfully they are impressively complex and layered.

They don’t really built their technology.

The two things are somewhat related, since they pretty much destroyed their own galaxy in religious infighting and only stopped once they had gone too far and really only had the option to go somewhere else.

Depends how much you mess things up, the Vong were a little to found of destroying whole planets.

Though their own texts are somewhat unclear on it, it could actually be that they exiled themselves after an extremely destructive galactic civil war that lasted forever and their new Supreme Overlord Yo'gand figured that the only way to keep themselves from destroying themselves in further infighting was to find a new enemy in a new galaxy, since they had already wiped any other sentient live from their home galaxy.

 

None of that makes the Vong look any better developed. The EU authors should have just stuck to the same galaxy and the beings who inhabited that galaxy. The new canon in no way should repeat a bad decision like that (especially not on screen).

Thankfully the filmakers aren't leaving the authors room to try to tell alien invasion stories in Star Wars.

 

How so?

Alien invaders from inside the galaxy (for that matter we had ones from outside as well) had already been done several times and pretty lacklustre at that.
And if we want to talk lack of complex ideas for invaders look no further than the cartoonish villainy of the Duskahn League.

Wait and see, though sometime you have to tell us about your seemingly irrational hate behind the very concept and what caused it.

 

The Vong should have been smart enough to figure out a way to rebuild their own galaxy if they were smart enough to be able to travel to a distant galaxy. No reason they even should of had to go to the GFFA. That right there is poor development.

 

They might have tried, some might actually even still be there, after all we only have the distorted POV of the descendants that left. Either they tell the truth and the thousands upon thousands of years of brutal no holds barred war messed up their galaxy enough that they had no choice, or the Supreme Overlord figured he needed to give them another goal before they all died or just collapsed into infighting again.

They have a whole litany of reasons why they left and they are not exactly the most cooperative amongst themselves society. Sure it is possible they could have gone to any other galaxy, they just happend to have picked the Skyriver, probably being the closest.

 

Well you can come up with all the theories you want to but all it was was an alien invasion plot shoehorned in there because the authors thought the Sith shouldn't be their main enemy anylonger (even though they had been their main enemy for thousands upon thousands of years prior to that).

In anycase we will just have to agree to disagree on this. You seemed to like the idea of the Vong. I think having a species invade an entirely different galaxy is a really dumb idea and it makes absolutely no sense for why it would even take place other than the authors were simply trying to out think themselves.

 

Look at Earth and humanity. We have nukes but we don't have a way to fix it do we? Just imagine something like that on a galactic scale.

Thank god they came up with something different.
There is a whole galaxy/universe out there.
Sith are the only ones who can attempt to conquer the galaxy?
Really?
They should have had a species from the Unknown Regions attack the galaxy. Or the Vong forced them out and then the Vong attacked several years later.

 

Force Smuggler it would have been a better idea if the Vong's galaxy was being destroyed for other reasons (say for instance it was about to collide with another galaxy (something that does happen)). War however is not a good enough reason to say a galaxy has been destroyed (yes you can buy it on a planetary basis but not on something the size of an entire galaxy). That just makes the Vong look about as smart as the monkeys you see at the zoo.

Sometimes it is better to not attempt to be too creative when you are coming up with new ideas..

 

The whole premise of Star Wars is "poor development." SW is pure pulp science fiction. The Vong invasion was absolutely of the same ridiculousness.

Star Wars intentionally is not about in-depth development. It's generic to the upmost and vague. ANH and TFA are the prime examples of this.

The PT attempted to exposition the **** out of the saga to give it "development." Not only was the exposition boring, it came across as sillier still.

 

To a point yes. However the beings who inhabit the star wars galaxy still act similarly enough to us and the rules of our own universe that we can still relate to them (which is why Star Wars became as popular as it did). When they start trying to come up with reasons for why a species would try to conquer an entirely different galaxy though that just throws all the relatability out the window.

 

I don't know...there was an interesting parallel going on in the world that the story definitely capitalized on, especially when they started using the word infidel...and basically advocating for galactic jihad...without saying so specifically.

I think it was as relatable as anything else in SW. Alien invasion are relatable because of the very alieness of the invaders...that is how all societies view other nations dissimilar to their own...

 

We don't know how many planets were in the YV galaxy. Or how many planets they could live on normally.
Higher gravity, breathable air, gas giants, etc. That would probably cut down on livable planets.
If every planet is destroyed, where are they gong to live?

 

You are dealing with a lot of what if's and probably's there. Things people tend to do when something is poorly explained (something you shouldn't have to do with a series spanning as many books as the NJO did)).

In anycase it is likely no coincidence that the NJO began development shortly after Independence Day came out.

 

Funny enough the original setup Dark Horse wanted for it, was once again Sith. Not making them just another group of force users really was a very, very good idea to get away from the “been there, done that thing” that had crept in.

It would have been stupid if it had not been such a clear one way trip and no going back thing, undertaken by a people whose reasoning for it was a blend of desperation, blind fanaticism and whose society had been so warped by a collective cultural shock that had clearly driven them beyond rational conduct and had gotten them into that very situation to begin with.

They had been there and done it, the problem with it is that it took some major leaps of logic to make them a serious challenge for a united galaxy or even able to conquer it. You know like what happened with the Ssi-ruuvi Imperium, Nagai or the Duskahn League.

Actually what happened in the Unknown Regions.

"Normal war" sure, but that was certainly not what there people were doing.
Thousands upon thousands of years of all-out war against remorseless giant living machines backed by a culture utterly focused on said war, followed by endless genocides and all out civil war. If anything the Vong that actually came out of their star caravan, long after the people that had actually started the whole insane undertaking, are likely to be far more reflected and rational than the ones that started the trip. No wonder Nom Anor turned out to be such a cynic.

Monkeys don't have the kind of resources at hand or that kind of society

 

Aa for the normal life of non-combatant, interlude of "Aftermath" made some try.

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