Amph "What I do is not up to you." - Wonder Woman 1984

We've seen tons of these female leading action movies such as Tomb Raider. Are they all better than Cameron' heroine, especially on feminism and characterization? Wonder Woman isn't different other than it was a big name and has bigger budget/special effect.

No, it simply serves one purpose, to make money.

 

Well, if I can't convince you that there's more than only 2 female narratives, and that Ripley is not the same as Wonder Woman, who is not the same as Tomb Raider, who is not the same as Atomic Blonde.

Then I guess there's no point discussing any further.



Also, I take it you hated Captain America: The First Avenger and the Rocketeer as well.

 

I don't hate them, I just don't think they are super awesome compare to the quality of Cameron's top works.

 

Learn from darth sinister's mistakes and don't engage!

 

cerealbox: I wouldn't liken Ripley and Sarah to the "final girls" of the slasher subgenre. Simply put, they're the sort of protagonists one would find in the decidedly more grounded, genre masterpieces in Hollywood history. Think Robert Duvall in THX-1138. Or Roy Scheider in Jaws. Or Christopher Walken in The Dead Zone. Three-dimensional characters with interior lives and frailties and arcs. Wonder Woman, as you stated, conforms more to an archetypal, Hero's Journey construct. Superman, Luke Skywalker, etc.

And while the Hero With a Thousand Faces has his/her place--and Jenkins and Gadot deserved their accolades for providing a commendable personage --I feel Cameron, who gave so much more, deserves a say in the Wonder Woman debate, regardless of gender.

 

I still wish to see what do they plan for the sequel, even Sarah Connor wasn't action heroine in the first one.

 

a. Nobody cares, and
b. that has nothing to do with Wonder Woman, stop ruining the thread with your awfulness.

 

Why didn't they let Lynda Carter to play a cameo role?

 

Lynda Carter said she had a scheduling conflict, but it rumored to be in talks for the sequel.

 

After seeing Keaton's performance in the new Spider Man, I really wish to see Lynda play a role in the future WW movie.

Too bad for Reeve, he didn't deserve such fate at all.

 

I got around to finally seeing this and I was mildly disappointed. It's by no means a bad film, it's actually good, but maybe the hype raised expectations too much. Surprisingly to me, it was the direction of this that I found... murky. The action scenes had really poor geography and framing, both in the beginning on the beach and in the various battles along the way. Lots of characters on the edges seemingly doing nothing (often with guns and not shooting, all waiting their turn to get knocked out) and the execution of bullet blocking with the bracelets wasn't really convincing. Was she reacting with Flash/Superman-like superspeed? Were they magnetic? The CGI, or rather the compositing of real actors against digital matte paintings, was really horrid in some shots, and seemed really unnecessary too. Ares was a bit of a disappointment too.

The writing is pretty good though and definitely the strongest element, with some great choices and nice dialogue. When the story arrives in Belgium I felt it slump a bit though and then the sheer randomness of the reveal at the end makes it seem like they just created the twist for the sake of it. And the battle between them turned into a generic back and forth fight that we've seen countless times before and reminded me too much of BvS.

 

Patty Jenkins has a finalized deal for Wonder Woman 2.

 

redxavier: Agreed. Wonder Woman isn't a genre classic, but did what it had to do: (1) Serve as a respectable introduction to the last of the truly iconic comic book superheroes, (2) open doors for female filmmakers and (3) supplant Zach Snyder's dour and cumbersome approach with something decidedly vibrant. Its success was as vital as Batman Begins and hopefully, like Nolan's franchise, there's a better sequel waiting in the wings.

 

lol @ Batgirl + Supergirl -- much better than the boys...

 

Even better!



Amazing...

 

Yeah, the part in the Honest Trailer where the villains do that "evil laugh" after tossing that gas canister stick out like a sore thumb.

 

The final boss fight sticks out like a bloody arm stump in comparison. I wanted to give this 5 stars. I really did. But it's only getting 4...maybe 4.5.

 

Hopefully Professor Marston & the Wonder Women will prove to be a more entertaining origin story. It opens in less than a month.

 

Yeah, I give Wonder Woman about 4 out of 5, but probably my favorite comic book film of the year, so far, beating out Spider-Man: Homecoming and Logan.

In other Wonder Woman news...

AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D. Alum Adrianne Palicki Reflects On That Failed WONDER WOMAN Pilot

 

Logan is loads better, and SM:H is slightly better.

 

Yeah, and neither of them had an island of only women.