Amph "What I do is not up to you." - Wonder Woman 1984

So, on the plus side of the music, we have some... potentially disturbing downside (bound to cause not at all any internet explosion)...

Spoiler

In this, supposed Zeus -- and Zeus alone -- creates the Amazons, to stop his son -- Ares. So in this universe, the prime raping god creates the Amazons, vs. every other incarnation where the female Greek gods create the women. And they didn't even change it to just having Artemis (who has beef with Ares) doing it... no, it's Zeus. Which is sort of the worst-possible simplification of Wonder Woman's Nu52 origin.

http://www.slashfilm.com/wonder-woman-plot-details-first-act/

I'm 100% certain that women will be totally fine with having a badass race of women, who were created by women for women for 75 years, changed to be created by a man to deal with a man. What could possibly go wrong here...

To be fair, there were some problematic issues involving Hercules and rape/rape apologists in the early (Golden/Silver Age) versions of the Amazons... but this doesn't help.

 

You're right. Nothing that happens in Hollywood has any impact on societal norms.

 

They're changing the origin that I (and probably 95% of people) didn't know to begin with?

That's it, I'm boycotting.

FUDCEU!

 

Pretty much. Only the comic book fan world knows about that. It isn't a deal breaker.

 

Well, comic fanboys reading the Wonder Woman Rebirth series know that the character herself doesn't really know her origin story as it may or may not retcon the New52 origin as of the last issue I read, which IIRC is #11. Wonder Woman's origin has been told 3 times in the last five plus years with the New52, Earth One and Rebirth; four if we count the upcoming film.

The film will probably be the definite Wonder Woman origin story for most people. Which is not a bad thing. I mean, Dick Donner's Superman: The Movie was and still is my definitive Superman origin story.

I read a headline yesterday (I didn't read the article to avoid spoilers), that there's an action sequence in Wonder Woman that many Marvel films would envy. Of course, I let my imagination run wild on what that could be.

 

I read the description of that scene. It didn't sound all that, but I'll blame the writer of the description.

 

The problematic aspect is not Diana's origin (which has changed like five times in the last 20 years like the rest of DC), but the change in the Amazons themselves. Also, you're all men, which is nice... (I'll give Diggy the benefit of the doubt )

 

Honestly, if they changed the origin story, it wouldn't shock me. I mean, Athena, the original warrior goddess (and goddess of wisdom, and known opponent of Ares), was actually born of Zeus's skull cleaved in half by Hephaistos because he ate her pregnant mother, Metis, fearing that her child would be a son that would topple him like he did his own father, Kronos.

The Greek mythology is full of strange stories like that, some of them contradictory because the tale grew in the telling and different versions emerged. If Diana's character arc is satisfying, I can overlook what is, in the end, a minor point.

 

I will offer you no such benefit, sir!

 

So, the studio and the director, Patty Jenkins, invited members of the media a meet and greet a few days ago and I read a few write ups of the event and I'm liking what I'm hearing about the influences Jenkins used in approaching Wonder Woman, namely Dick Donner's Superman.

Here's some the quotes from Jenkins that stood out to me:

From Collider:

From IGN:

And what I love about these quotes from Jenkins is that they're the opposite from what Zack Snyder typical says like, "I thought it would be cool to do..." or Superman is a god and should be treated a such. Whereas Jenkins is taking the approach of not would be cool but rather how to service the character and make the character relatable so that anyone could stand on their couch as say I am Wonder Woman.

And the footage of the trailer shows the influence of Donner's Superman:




As such, I have high hopes for Wonder Woman and I hope it does not disappoint as it could be this generation's Dick Donner's Superman: The Movie.

 

As one for whom Superman: The Movie (and its immediate sequel) did for me as a kid what it did for Patty Jenkins (and apparently her son too), even more than the Star Wars films, my hype level for Wonder Woman just went even more through the roof.

 

Superman: The Movie is and will always be my favorite all time comic book movie. It did hit me the same way Star Wars hit me and alot of other people.


I also came across this article this morning that Wonder Woman will have an R-Rated version for home video.

Wonder Woman Could Receive an R-Rated Director’s Cut

Which seems logical. As I understand, if the film depicts blood splattering that's enough cause to earn an R-rating as evidenced by The Wolverine film. I refer to this rule as the "Mortal Kombat blood code" for Sega Genesis rule.

 

So the WW film will be inspired by a film about a guy? dp4m is all

 

lol, a guy (with a fetish) created Wonder Woman. If you think that's the complaint, I don't know what to tell you.

 

"An elf or a dog or whatever" needs to be the tagline.

 

A guy and a couple of women.

 

Well, two guys and two women if you want to get technically correct (which we all know is the best kind of correct!)...

 

This is what happens when everybody reads that book about Wonder Woman that's supposed to be super-good, but all only remember certain bits.

 

Wow, nine times is crazy. I've been wanting to get to it, but I haven't. But nine times? I may have to prioritize it a little higher.

 

What book are you guys referring to?