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What if Juggernaughts had been deployed on Jabiim?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by DeltaVX, Oct 6, 2005.

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  1. DeltaVX

    DeltaVX Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Had Juggernaughts (Turbo Tanks) been deployed on Jabiim, could they have turn the tide for the Jedi and the Clone Army? I believe it might have at least made operations more successful because while the walkers had trouble moving through deep, thick mud the Juggernaughts? wheels could?ve transported the vehicle with ease. Granted, from what I saw in RTOS, they may have been a great asset.
     
  2. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Possible.

    Unfortunately the clone-wars EU shows few things, that haven't been established in the movies before and if they do it is a one-time-experience.
     
  3. darthmohican

    darthmohican Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Although the firepower might have helped they would have been extremely slow on the mud wouldnt they?
     
  4. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm not too sure. There had to be a reason why the GAR used walkers primarily, with secondary repulsorlift vehicles in command and support roles.


    >>>Unfortunately the clone-wars EU shows few things, that haven't been established in the movies before and if they do it is a one-time-experience.<<<


    Very true in some cases. However, Jabiim has a few exceptions: it has the re-appearance of AT-XTs and the pseudo-Chariot command speeder of the TTT comics, and has the first recorded use of AT-ATs.
     
  5. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I doubt it. Wheeled vehicles are also not the greatest in any type of muddy conditions- I know because I live on a dirt road, and every spring it turns to mud. I think that the Juggernauts would have an even harder time on Jabiim.
     
  6. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Have you seen the wheels of those things?

    The Jedi and clones would have to drown in mudd before the Juggernaughts would have been impeded?

    The more logical in-universe-explenation is, that the Juggernaughts hadn't entered service in sufficent numbers at this point of time.
     
  7. DeltaVX

    DeltaVX Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I did read in the latest Star Wars Insider issue that Juggernaughts were going to be the orginial Imperial ground vehicles for the attack on Echo Base in ESB, but were scraped in place of the AT-ATs. If they could done well on snow, I figured they'd do pretty good on mud.
     
  8. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The thing is, they didn't do well in snow. They were deployed by landing craft at the Battle of Hoth, but never made it to Echo Base. The craggy glacier landscape probably stopped them.

    (The Juggernauts at Hoth were seen in Visionaries.)
     
  9. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Juggernauts are not all-wheel-drive vehicles. Poor off-road handling. The ones at Kashyyyk had amphibious modifications, IIRC, and were only deployed on the open field and not in the forest proper.
     
  10. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Probably just didn't have the chance to deploy them, is my guess.
     
  11. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    The Republic should have deployed the Republic Tanks. The ones from the Clone War game that hover. The Walkers were having trouble in the mud, the Tanks wouldn't have.

    The tanks would have probably done more good.
     
  12. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I've wondered why they didn't deploy the hover tanks at Jabiim. Personally, I like walkers a great deal than the Juggernauts, mainly because they can walk over anything. Juggernauts, the way that they're built, really can't.
     
  13. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    And there's the trouble with explosive mines...
     
  14. EH_Pilot

    EH_Pilot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Probably gross incompetence on the part of the Republic and Jedi, really...
     
  15. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I thought Juggernaughts were in service beofre the start of the Clone Wars? At least, my Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels stated that they had been in use for several decades before the end of the Republic, and I don't think any of the Clone Wars EU has disproven that.
     
  16. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    They were in service, but that doesn't mean that they weren't in large numbers for deployment.
     
  17. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    But there's no evidence that they weren't used in large numbers. And to expect a massively useful vehicle like the Juggernaught to stay in limited-use prototype stages for several decades, at the time when various crises like the Stark Hyperpsace War were escalating, doesn't make much sense.
     
  18. FTeik

    FTeik Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Juggernaughts from the EU are not the same Juggernaughts we see in ROTS and which are described in the ROTS:ICS.

    The former is a model A5, while the one from the movie is a much larger A6-version.
     
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