Great thread, "can't believe it's hit one million posts" Anyway, as I see it: (Stay with me here for a bit!!) Frazier bt Ali (1) Ali bt Frazier (2) Ali bt Frazier (3) Between 1 & 2, Foreman DESTROYED Frazier. Ali bt Foreman, with a lot less trouble than he beat Frazier. My point? Some fighters, no matter how good they are, no matter how fast etc, just plain struggle with other good, but lesser fighters! Fight 1 Tyrannus slaps Obi silly in AOTC He then makes a punk out of Ani. Doesn't break a sweat really, owned both of them. Result = DT better fighter than both Ani, who finished 2nd and Obi 3rd. Fight 2 Once again, DT OWNS Kenobi. His plan was to dispose of Obi quickly, then turn Anakin. e did what he set out to do with Kenobi, with ease. However, Knight Skywalker kicks DT's butt with ease. Result = Ani 1st, Dooku 2nd Kenobi 3rd. Over-all = Ani / DT / Kenobi 3rd by a distance. Now, going by this, Obi should never have beaten Ani. My point finally, is that Ani was Ali, Obi was Frazier, Dooku was Foreman. That would therefore make the Emperor Iron Mike, "unlimited" power, but would eventually loose to Holyfield, a fighter in the image of smokin' Joe. Geez, this is long winded for ME, how are you guys ever gonna understand it?!! In conclusion: Ani - The Greatest Obi - The one who could best the greatest, i.e - Frazier DT - Foreman, who destroyed Frazier, but couldn't live with Ani post Padawan. DS - Tyson. Basically, I think Obi would beat Sids!!