JCC What is objectivity? Why do we like it so much?

great. now i want a mojito.

 

wat

 

My subjectivity is better than your subjectivity.

 

let's talk like that

i comprehend that this is a mammoth approximation and we sustain entire harangue like this this evening

 

I read a funny story about a man who farted in a kid's face at Target, because he was being a spoiled brat and cussing at his mom.

 

I've got some bourbon. Clearly what we ought to do is stretch the OP to its absolute limits by discussing why objectivity don't real.*

Ergo: I contend that objectivity don't real because it's a crap term. More specifically, when we talk about objectivity we necessarily carry along a tremendous amount of definitional baggage - specifically, objectivity requires a definition of truth. But in the whole of human history, no universal standard for such a definition has ever been properly arrived at, because definitions are an illusion perpetrated by the Man, man.

Furthermore, at the layman level there is a conflation of objectivity and objectivism - not in the Randian sense, but rather in the sense of a metaphysics which asserts that the objective objects are, in fact, extant in some meaningful way. But how can you even metaphysics when science has empirically demonstrated that metaphysics don't real? Science disproved metaphysics so much that even though asserting that scientific realism is meaningful is itself a metaphysical claim, it's not actually a metaphysical claim. Because cat in a room or something.

In addition to these hangups, objectivity was originally constructed based on the infallibility of mathematics. But mathematics is totally fallible, or else full-blooded mathematical Platonism would be a viable model - and it cannot be so, for we have already disproven all metaphysics (See above). Consequently we no longer have a reference point by which to judge objectivity. It has simply become a contextless term that means nothing, and need I remind you that the early Wittgenstein, who solved all of philosophy, said that "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent"? I didn't think so, because he's mother****ing Ludwig Wittgenstein. So not only is objectivity a mess, it is actually meaningless. Thus, it don't real.

As we have now demonstrated that objectivity don't real, we must, of logical necessity (Because logic is infallible as it's empirically derived via computers), conclude that the OP is actually a clever word illusion, and that the thread was originally intended to discuss mint chip ice cream. Subjectively, the best flavor.

Spoiler: *

I'm including a disclaimer because somebody, somewhere, might think I'm serious.

I'm totally serious, for real. 100% not ****ing around. Incidentally, I happen to know a guy who sells bridges...

 

ramza, precedent subsist you implementation?

 

"Thesaurus? When you got Pinot Noir you don't need no stinkin' thesaurus!"

 

CUO's here... now it's a party.

 

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Do not try to brand me with your sorceress words! I will consult Moviefan/Jesusfan, and ye shall be cast out!

 

Don't blame jesusfan, blame christian apologetics. Jesusfan is just a disciple. When you base your entire worldview and sense of worth on something which does not actually exist then you must contort logic, reason and common sense into bizarre shapes in order to give your worldview some semblance of reality. We would all do the same if we hitched our entire self identity and worth to the existence of leprechauns.

 

naw im gonna blame him. somebody has to cus he sure as hell won't

 

Jesusfan is not exactly the height of Christian apologetics. If Christian apologetics had a winter Olympics, Jesusfan would be the guy who got his tongue stuck to the frozen flagpole.

 

Agreed!