What is the defence between a Dark Jedi and the Sith?

What is the defence betwwen a Dark Jedi and the Sith? Are they the same thing?

 

i think Sith are just a higher level of Dark Jedi.

 

The Sith are a special type of Dark Jedi. They have their own secret order separate from other Dark Jedi. I think.

 

While a dark Jedi simply draws on the power of the dark side, a Sith draws on the power of the dark side through the Sith teachings. It's more of a religion. Anyone can use the Force for good, but to be included in the Old Jedi Order one had to be taught in a certain way and conform to rules.

 

The sith are an ancient civilization led/enslaved by dark jedi.

hence dark lord of the sith

 

No A Dark Jedi simpley uses the Force for personal gain and reasons. Using the DS makes them randomly violent, spearing and killing those who cross them on a whim and ocassionaly fun. What is their obssession vareys from Darkjedi to Dark Jedi. The Night sisters wanted to escape Dothmir, Arun sing wanted to kill Jedi for sport(but never realy went looking for them). Kruller was power hungrey, The New Night sisters wanted to rule Dothmir and the 2nd Imperium. The ability or lack their of, to Organise depends on the Darkjedi.

DarkJedi are short term minded.

What you would call Over all Chaotic evil.



Sith are actively and aggressivly out to destroy the jedi and Rule the galaxy. Rabidly violent they kill both out of whim and pleasure. They cannot Exist in a stable clan/pride/sociaty because their DS instincts are too strong. One will turn on the other with EXTREAM prejudice. They died out from a combination Internal conflict and External Jedi pressures.

So there are always 2 A master and an Aprentice.

Because of their Long term plans. They would be considerd Lawful evil.

 

in the tales of the jedi, the sith were seen as an empire ruled by force users.

 

do you mean 'difference'?
because 'defence' doesn't make much sense...

 

The original Sith was a species that was enslaved by dark side Force users. These users were called "Dark Lords of the Sith." Over time, the Sith species died out, and Sith took on its current meaning.

 

Bib is wise.

The last Dark Lord of the Sith was Vader, but the last true dark lord who deserved the title was Exar Kun.

The order of the sith is actually been very well maintained over the years. They have never really died out and a new one is always showing up, as Bantam made abundantly clear.

The Sith Empire was a race of peoples outside of the boundaries of the Old Repbulci and viewed as myth within. They made war on the OR and because of betrayal and lack of forces, lost. When they returned, battered and defeated, a new DLofS had arrison in the empire and a war between the two armies began.

 

Sith - trained in the Sith ways, passed down from Darth Bane (in the "modern" SW Universe)

"Dark Jedi" - a) trained as a Jedi, but turns to the Dark Side. b) no formal Jedi training, but uses the Dark Side

"Dark Jedi" are NOT Sith, and Sith are NOT Dark Jedi.

wk

 

Yes. To wild kardde and Bib you listen.

 

But the term "Dark Jedi" is still an oxymoron

wk

 

"The sworn enemies of the Jedi are the Sith -- a cult-like order bent on domination through subservience to the Force's dark side. Founded by former Jedi, the Sith abandoned the precepts of knowledge and defense, and instead seek abandon and strength through the Force's hateful energies." - Official Site

Personally, I dislike the terms dark Jedi and rogue Jedi. I prefer terms like fallen Knight or darksider. Other cult-like orders include Nightsisters and the Jensaari.

 

All Sith are Dark Jedi, but not all Dark Jedi are Sith.

 

But Bib, by saying all Sith are Dark Jedi, you are also saying that all Dark Jedi are Sith....

Heh, just playing...I understand what you are conveying.

 

DarkJedi are what they called Sith before the Sith order (2000 years before TPM - and that came GL himself, so its beyond condestation). After the Sith order come into being you were either a Jedi, a Fallen jedi (no longer in the order, but not in the darkside, I would assume Jedi children not picked for Padawans would also fit into this catagory) or a Sith.

 

"But Bib, by saying all Sith are Dark Jedi, you are also saying that all Dark Jedi are Sith....

Heh, just playing...I understand what you are conveying."

No he didn't he used a conversitive postulate, I think it was called in geometry.

It's like saying "All fathers are men, but not all men are fathers".

Some words can go one direction, but not nesscerilly the other.

"After the Sith order come into being you were either a Jedi, a Fallen jedi (no longer in the order, but not in the darkside, I would assume Jedi children not picked for Padawans would also fit into this catagory) or a Sith."

Just plain incorrect. There is the Sith Order and it's said, "only two there are, master and apprentice".

Anything else falls under Dark Jedi, or fallen jedi. Because only 2 sith exist in the sith order. (Of course there are a few isolated sith cults(sorceror's of tund). But they do not belong to the "Sith Order")

 

"Anything else falls under Dark Jedi" - No quite. You see the SITH keep their numbers at only 2 - its not some kind of natural law or something like that, they choose to do it that way. Its not impossible to have more then 2 Sith. Ie - if Maul hadn't died and .... had still left and fallen to the darkside, he would still be a Sith.

 

Oh, boy not another illogical newbie. LFL says one thing, these newbies say another. Well, the newbies don't agree with LFL, yet LFL is the one that has the right to say what they want(and copyright it).

So you tell me who is the only one who legally can say anything. Anything else would be mental fanfic. Fiction made-up by the fan.

 

if Maul hadn't died and .... had still left and fallen to the darkside, he would still be a Sith

Do you think that by just "falling to the darkside" alone labels you as a Sith automatically? Wouldn't you have to knowingly accept the way of the Sith in order to be one? Couldn't you be considered just as evil and powerful perhaps without fully embracing the ideology of the Sith?

Just a thought.....

 

This always annoyed me. People always called Dark Jedi Sith and Sith Dark Jedi. You are not a Sith unless you are trained as a sith, thats like calling all Christians Roman Catholics. A Dark Jedi is like a fallen Jedi, other than that you are a Darksider.

BTW, I really didnt like making Palpatine a Sith.

 

"trained as a sith" - well from how AotC looks ... doesn't train as a Sith. The Sith are the same as the Jedi, only they use the darkside (ie - Qui-Gon says Maul was trained in the JEDI ARTS, not the Sith arts). Before GL changed how the Sith were (ie - 2000 years old and not 10,000 or whatever it is) I would agree, there was a difference between Jedi and Sith, however GL changed that - Sith are the same as Jedi, only they use the Darkside - which elminated the need for DarkJedi.

 

So what is the deffernce between the two?

 

Nothing - Darkjedi are what characters who don't know about Sith/who were alive before the Sith were created called Darkside users.