What is the length of a Super Star Destroyer?

"StarWars to Indiana Jones states clearly, that the intended size of the Executor is eleven times the lenght of eleven miles."

What are you trying to say? Your sentence is a bit confusing. Do you mean that that book has an official length for the ssd of being eleven times the length of an ISD?

Well when I do the math of that quote:

11 * 1600 m

I come up with:

11 * 1600 m = 17.6 km.

Which would mean that there is indeed an official source for the 17.6 km measurement, making it no more a fanfic than EU's quotes. By definition it cannot be fanfic. It's just as "official" as any other source.

 

So, the length is 17.6 Km, right?


I gave what information you guys have down to my friend. It should help a lot. But, this debate is far from other. We had lengths raging from 8 Km up to 17.6 KM. All we have to find out is this:

1. Length of the Exector?
2. Length of SSD betwwen Yavin and Endor battles?
3. Length of SSD after Endor?
4. Length of SSD after Galactic Civil War?

 

We have direct visual representations of some SSDs from the comics, LucasArts games, and RPG adventures:

Executor: Measurements from scenes in the films, Dark Forces, and the X-wing and TIE Fighter games all show it as 11x the length of the ISDs escorting it.

Lusankya: Proportions and fetures match Executor, and it is stated that the two are nearly-identical sister ships.

Terror: Cutscenes from Rebel Assault II show the ship to be 11x the length of the escorting ISDs.

Guardian: Illustrations from the RPG adventure show it to be 11x the length of the ISDs around it.

Vengeance: Box art from XvT shows SSD 11x the size of its ISD escorts, and the in-game model is clearly distorted to match the "official" 8,000 meter figure.

In addition, the Intimidator/Pride of Yevetha is called an Executor-class in Shield of Lies. This leaves only the Razor's Kiss, Iron Fist, Reaper, Knight Hammer, and Aggressor unaccounted for. Since there is no statement in any of the books that mentions any of these ships as being smaller or less fearsome than the Executor, it can safely be assumed that they are all 17.6 kilometers in length and that the 12.8 and 8 km figures are just unsubstantiated BS.

I will not take LFL's 12.8 km figure for granted UNLESS somebody measures the ships in the above examples and comes up with that figure - I will not take "but LFL says so" for an answer. Until then, 17.6 km is what I consider to be the correct length of the vessels referred to as Super-class Star Destroyers.

 

I went and posted a couple questions to the "ILM Magician" in the Ask Lucasfilm Jedi Council section of the Official Site. One was asking what was the true intended length of the Executor as seen in the films. The other question asking for the length and scale of the Executor model used in the films. The current officially given length of the model is 282 cm but there is another independently measured length of 277 cm. However the most important part is the actual scale of the model, as I don't think that has ever been officially disclosed.

 

If LFL is clamming up, we can just use the bridge on the ISD (same size as the one on the SSD) as a yardstick. And Saxton had the opportunity to measure the Executor model - he has a whole slew of photos on the site from when the ILM models were on exhibition.

 

Set

 

Set

 

I am unlocking and upping this thread under orders from dp4m. In Comms, he ordered me to "get your butt back into Lit and debate the length of an SSD."

As ordered, here I am.

Having just finished my own detailed analysis of RotJ, I have concluded that the Executer is approximately 12.3 inches long on screen when I am at my house, and about 18.7 inches long at my girlfriend's house.

Thank you.

Kimball Kinnison

 

//slaps forehead

Why the hell didn't I think to do that first.

I'm glad we promoted you!

 

What we should really compare the Executor with is the five-mile SSD seen in several places, but most clearly the old EGVV. It is clearly a different, and far larger, ship...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

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http://home.mn.rr.com/sonoflar/executor3scales.html

 

I've never seen that before, and I like it. For what it's worth, the length on the 8x scale seems about right, but on the small side of right. The 11x length seems on the other side of right, a tad large.

If'n you don't mind, Raptor_Rage, I'm going to put that in the SSD resource thread.

 

AAAHHHH!!!

 

Check the bridge towers. Even allowing for perspective, the ISDs on the '8' are still too big...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

I hadn't even paid close attention to the bridge towers, but now that you mention it, the 8x figure still makes the Executor seem small, and the 11x makes it seem too large.

A certain Scottish Ewok gets kudos.

 

But who's to say the bridge towers are the same size?

 

Why have a smaller tower for a much larger ship?

 

Has anyone noticed that the Official site now lists the SSD length at 12,800 meters? I just noticed this. Is it new, or has it been around for awhile. Go check it out in the Star Wars database on starwars.com.

 

The current SSD databank entry was put up on June 20, 2001.

However the 8x ISD length started some time in 1998 and was mentioned in the first Incredible Cross Sections book for the classic trilogy, the Behind the Magic CD-ROM as well as the Executor databank entry that was online at the time.

 

Then 8000m length, was reused in at least 2 other sources, since then...

"mentioned in the first Incredible Cross Sections"

Actually it said "Over 8x" the size.

 

Yeah over, but still used the 8x base number.

 

Ya, but "over 8x" is not "8x", as "8x" is not "over 8x".

"8x" would not be "over 8x" times as both would be equally, "12,800m".

"9x" would be "over 8x", at 14,400m.

"10x" would be "over 8x", at 16,000m.

"11x" would be "over 8x", at 17,600m.

But 12,800m is not over 12,800m, .

I'm just pointing out that Dr. Reynolds gave out an entirely different number than 12,800m.

 

Lucas should weigh in on this. Only he can put the matter to rest.

 

For some reason I think he would just use the current official line from LFL on the matter rather than the facts portrayed from the original material from 1980.

 

Of course, if its 8X-11X the size of a regular ISD, then the amount of armament that an SSD carries is up for grabs, as 500 odd turbolaser batteries on a SSD (11X) seems to be spread awfully thin, though the 250 missile tubes (I thought the pre Endor Empire didn't like missiles?) should make up somewhat for it.

But with the given armament and 8X lenght, it fits in more nicely.