CT What is wrong with Hayden as Anakin in the end scene of Return of the Jedi

I like young Anakin’s insertion. His appearance makes Luke’s faith in his father (as well as Padme) ring even more true. That Anakin is redeemed by love and trust is a nice way to bring him full circle; even if it is in the afterlife.

I understand some would like Mr. Shaw back. For me, this is a wonderful way of showing Anakin’s redemption.

 

For me? Nothing. It actually makes more sense the Shaw.

 

Some people believe Lucas' explanation for Hayden Christensen as the force ghost is just a little forced.Its kinda weird how he dies old but appears really young.

 

What's weird to me is how Luke recognizes the young man next to yoda and Obi-wan.

What's wrong with Hayden as anakin in Rotj? That he's not Sebastian shaw.

 

The only thing wrong with it is that there wasn't anything wrong with it before. Just leaving it alone would have been fine.

 

Exactly! If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.

 

I’m not a fan of the change, but in all fairness, Luke recognizing the Hayden Christensen Force ghost shouldn’t be a problem, because he’s not really seeing the ghosts. We know that, because Leia doesn’t see them. He’s sensing them. The visual representation is for our benefit.

 

How does he recognize the old man? Anakin not Vader ever looked like that. If the ghost was to be realistic it should be a burn victim who is a Quadruple amputee

 

I recognized him right away in 1983. So did most of the audience. Sebastian Shaw was never an issue until he was removed from the scene.

 

But Anakin himself never looked like that. It just does not make sense to me. But it does to you

 

Does it really matter if Anakin never looked like that? Who is to say that force ghosts can't choose what form they want to appear as?

 

Anakin never appeared in life as he does when the Hayden Force Ghost is used either, as he has long hair from the ROTS era, but two hands.

 

Probably nothing you can do makes any sense because it turns out Vader/Anakin is like 45 tops so Shaw and Christensen make for a situation where each is actually almost about equally off in age in universe in appearance to me.

Shaw had worked fine for going on 20 years but the mumbo jumbo excuses probably at least make equal sense when trying to mesh the series together.

Why I prefer Shaw personally is I don't like the feeling of having my experience edit/deleted in this case though in others I have preferred it like when the replaced false puppet Yoda with CGI Yoda in Phantom Menace on the Blu-ray.

I guess I could live with Hayden if at least GL didn't settle for an image with a smile that makes him seem like maybe he shouldn't be around matches, weapons, and/or children.

 

Invasive Prequel Retcon featuring a not-so-popular actor
plus the bitter debate if Force Ghosts can project themselves as their Younger Selves

 

To be fair, it's unlikely he would have a ghost-mechanical hand.

It would be good IMO if they were to rerecord him now as an older man, AND age him with makeup, to make it appear as though he's the Hayden Anakin but at his actual age of death and insert that into the next BR release, as the force ghost. I think that that would be a fair compromise, at least, better than a 20 year old Anakin.

 

If redeemed Anakin Skywalker can project himself as a Force Ghost, it makes more sense to project himself as a clean-pure (4 limbs restored) Death Star II version (the one Luke saw) than 23 yo Clone Wars Anakin, which Luke never saw

that's why I WILL NEVER like the 2004-DVD and Blu-Ray versions of ROTJ; 1997 version minus Jedi Rocks Fan-Edit FOREVER

 

I'll disagree there. Seventeen-year-old me had no trouble recognizing who it was in 1983, so why would Luke?

 

I've read and participated in this thread (too much) and only see SS as the right choice. The HC change makes me angry -very angry.

But one thing that never really struck me is - Should Anakin appear at all?? Darth Vader redeems himself at the end - cool. But that does not undo any of the atrocities he committed before hand... Maybe Luke redeems him and just sees Yoda and Obi Wan. Maybe that was the better way to go all along...

 

Luke helped him to reassess his life but it was ultimately his choice to throw the emperor down the shaft and fulfill the prophecy, so in the eyes of the Force he did redeem himself. Forgiveness is up to the individuals, Luke forgave him, the galaxy at large didn't. It's not about undoing what he did because he can't but he can change himself for the better.

 

True

 

Because it makes more sense 3 old ghosts, than 2 old ghosts and a new one.

 

To me, Sebastian Shaw's Anakin just makes more sense to be his Force ghost. Years have past since the Prequels by this point. So it makes sense to me that as a ghost it would reflect the age he was in the present before his death. Not his twenty-year-old something self.

 

How does that make more sense? In "A Christmas Carol", Jacob Marley appears with chains wrapped around his spectral form, yet he did not die wearing chains.

Ghosts don't have to apply to any sort of logic, since there's no definitive proof they exist and have to adhere to some type of consistency about their appearance.

 

Also, Sabastian looks pretty old for a 45-year-old.