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What Nordic people think about each other?

Discussion in 'Nordic Countries Discussion' started by Tod, Feb 11, 2002.

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  1. Gray_Mouser

    Gray_Mouser Jedi Youngling

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    Ho hum I don´t know. I´m told that Quenya is inspired by Latin, Finnish and Greek and Sindarin by Welsh. Knowing that, I find it difficult to believe that Sindarin and Quenya are just different dialects of THE elvish language. But then again who knows.
     
  2. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    Quenya is the high-elvish language that tolkien build on the finish/latin/greek grammar.

    Sindarin is build on the Welsh grammar.
    The languages is quite like eachother but I dunno why.
     
  3. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    Quenya - the Ancient Tongue
    Sindarin - the Noble Tongue
    Adûnaic - the Vernacular of Númenor
    Westron - the Common Speech
    Telerin - the Language of the Sea-Elves
    Doriathrin - the Mothertongue of Lúthien
    Various Mannish Tongues - the Sadness of Mortal Men?
    Nandorin - the Green-elven Tongue
    Old Sindarin - between Primitive Elvish and Grey-elven
    Ilkorin - a "Lost Tongue"?
    Avarin - All Six Words
    Khuzdul - the Secret Tongue of the Dwarves
    Entish - Say Nothing That Isn't Worth Saying
    Orkish and the Black Speech - Base Language for Base Purposes
    Valarin - Like the Glitter of Swords
    Primitive Elvish - Where It All Began

    As you can see there is many dialects on the original elvish.. which is :confused:
     
  4. Gray_Mouser

    Gray_Mouser Jedi Youngling

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    Me english is failing.

    Sorry there wishnud I´m not sure where you are going. Are all these just dialects of some ancient elven language. It seams to me that these are some of the languages of Arda and not dialects derived from some original elvish language.
     
  5. Karoline

    Karoline Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Hm dialects may be the wrong word, how about that all the elvish languages have branched (not sure if this can be used in english, bear with me) from Quenya, which is the Ancient language, and that Sindarin and all the other languages are only branches on the treetrunk that is Quenya. Uhm.. did you understand that?
     
  6. Gray_Mouser

    Gray_Mouser Jedi Youngling

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    yep I understand and... I think your right.

    Edit:
    I did a litle research and Sindarin is indeed a dialect of Quenya.
     
  7. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    Ups, yes i thought the languages that I copied from ardalambion just were elvish dialects.

    It seames (sp?) like only sindarin is related to Quenya. And a few others like telerin and old sindarin.
     
  8. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne FF manager Celebrations star 8 Manager

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    Spare me this Tolkien stuff. *faints*
     
  9. menilma

    menilma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    must agree somewhat with OA, all these languages are a little too complicated for me :) anyway does anyone know what latin sounds like? is it like french or am I way wrong there?
     
  10. Tod

    Tod Jedi Master star 4

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    Latin is pronounced as it's written. Very much like finnish so it's quite easy for us Finns to learn to speak latin. Of course grammatics are totally different.
     
  11. Karoline

    Karoline Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Latin is a very cool language.
    Damicus magisisne (no idea)
    Lupin (wolf)
    Lynx Lynx (lynx or gaupe)
    Felis (cat)

    And that's all the latin I know :D
     
  12. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    What does "lynx" mean? I have always wondered.
     
  13. Karoline

    Karoline Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In norwegian, lynx means gaupe. Uhm, it's a big cat that has pointy ears, and some spots, i think. It lives in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia and Canada. It's a beautiful animal. *sniff* I saw a stuffed one the other day :( :_|
     
  14. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    Jedilynx! [face_laugh]

    Now i finaly understand.
     
  15. Karoline

    Karoline Jedi Padawan star 4

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    About time ;) :p
     
  16. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    "Only now, at the end, do you understand..."
    [face_laugh]

    Yes, the lynx is a truly beautiful animal... and it has been my nick on the net since.. well, forever.
     
  17. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    This will confuse me!

    Becouse my only picture of jedilynx is a little hobbit!
     
  18. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    bwahahahaaa!! Sorry about that, wishnud... I promise I won't wear my hobbit costume next time we meet. ;)
     
  19. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    I hope so ;)
    Try a regular jedicostume next time.
     
  20. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    Jedi schmedi. I'm an X-wing pilot!!! :D
     
  21. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    Do you have a x-wing costume!?

    I demand you to wear it on the premiär till Episode II!
     
  22. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, it's not finished yet but I will definately we wearing it at the premiere and hopefully also at the sci-fi convention in April. :)

    Maybe we should get back on topic?
     
  23. wishnud

    wishnud Jedi Master star 4

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    That is? before Karoline brought "lynx" up, we wear discussing(sp?) Tolkiens languages.
     
  24. Tod

    Tod Jedi Master star 4

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    Ok here's a new question for all of you.

    What places in other nordic countries you have visited, what did you like of them and what place would you still like to visit?


    I have visited Stockholm many times and have always liked it. I've been also couple of times in Göteborg, Oslo and Bergen but I was quite young back then so I don't really remember those places. I have also visited northern Norway once and I really enjoyed that trip, views up there are really beautiful. I would like to visit Iceland one day but that will have to wait until I have more money (common problem). And of course I have been nearly everywhere in Finland.
     
  25. Karoline

    Karoline Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've been to sweden a couple of times, I was in Göteborg last summer, on the 5th, 6th and 7th of june (7th of june is my birthday :D )
    Besides that, I've been to denmark 100s of times.
     
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