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What Nordic people think about each other?

Discussion in 'Nordic Countries Discussion' started by Tod, Feb 11, 2002.

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  1. Tod

    Tod Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It would be great if Finland would get back all land-areas it lost in WW2. Especially those islands in Gulf of Finland and of course city of Vyborg which guarded Finland (and Sweden) for centuries.

    Sadly that's not likely to happen. And even if it did happen it would bankrupt finnish economy.
     
  2. Wanlorn

    Wanlorn Jedi Youngling

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    Maybe Karrelia would.. but the Islands we could have without bankrubt...

    EDIT: And anyway, it wouldn't be *Finland* that would be bankrupt, it would be Scandinavia or what was that name now..
     
  3. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    But is really Scandinavia such a good name, then we can't continue to conquer Iceland.
     
  4. Tod

    Tod Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Scandinavia would not work as name for unified nordic countries because Scandinavia includes only Norway and Sweden.
     
  5. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    So what do we say, just nordic countries isn't good either.:confused:
     
  6. Tod

    Tod Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    How about if we take first three letters from each country's name? That would be Finswenordenice.

    Well maybe it's not very good idea. Does anybody have any better suggestions?
     
  7. Wanlorn

    Wanlorn Jedi Youngling

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    What kind of country would it be like? a Federation? Then the best way would be to name it as Nordic Federation, or NorFed in a short form..
     
  8. Leto

    Leto Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Just wondering, is Denmark in or not?
    If it is we should reclaim the Schleissig-Hollstein? region from Germany. I have no clue how to spell that SH, just remember it from my German lessons. suppressing dark memories
     
  9. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    What about Nordica as name?
     
  10. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Nordica is really beautiful. I vote for that.

    And Leto it's spelled Schleswig-Holstein.
     
  11. Tod

    Tod Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nordica is quite fine and it can be used just like that in most languages but us Finns would have to change it. It just doesn't work in finnish. If finnish person would like to say "I'm from Nordica" it would be "Olen Nordikasta" and that sounds really stupid. Finns always change foreign names to sound more finnish. For example:
    Sweden = Ruotsi
    Norway = Norja
    Denmark = Tanska
    Iceland = Islanti
    Stockholm = Tukholma
    Copenhagen = Kööpenhamina
    Carl Gustaf = Kaarle Kustaa (or just Kalle)
    So Nordica would have to be changed too. The most easiest translation would be Pohjola, which would be quite fine because it's familiar from finnish national epic Kalevala.

    Another question is that what would be chosen as capital of this Nordica or whatever? If any of existing capitals would be chosen there would be lot of people who wouldn't like the choice. My suggestion would be Mariehamn because first it is not really part of any nation and second it's geographic position would be ideal. Has anybody other ideas?
     
  12. Leto

    Leto Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thanks OA, hey I was close.

    Capital: Do we really need one? How about Fittja?, *winks at all swedes*
    Imagine the reactions from the rest of the world. :D
     
  13. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I would have said Stockholm, because of the locations, but I'll go for Mariehamn instead it's even better.
     
  14. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    I say we build ourselves a capital, right in the geographic middle of Nordica! :D

    Or we could go with Mariehamn...
     
  15. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Well where would the geographic centre be, are we counting on Iceland or Norway as the western border? I think Mariehamn is good enough.

     
  16. JediLynx

    JediLynx Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, with each (former) country that Nordica conquers, the geometric center will move a bit which means that the capital will have to be either a) extremely portable or b) HUGE!!!

    Minor problem. :p

    It needs to be beautiful too. Have you seen the pictures of Brasilia, the capital of Brazil? The whole city is built to resemble the silhouette of an airplane when seen from above. Sweet.
     
  17. Tod

    Tod Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Why would capital have to be a big city? I think that capital needs just be symbolic place where only major decisions are made. Minor problems would be solved in local administration centers i.e. current capitals.
     
  18. SamiS

    SamiS Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can I have the swedish pricesses then?
    ...of course i mean can WE have them... :D
     
  19. Obi Anne

    Obi Anne Celebration Mistress of Ceremonies star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    If we get your finnish ski jumpers, and Sampa Lajunen, so that we can get some gold medals too.
     
  20. Quiet Queen

    Quiet Queen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't care about the gold medals, you can keep them! :p

    I want the Kalevala! [face_devil] Then we can start talking princesses...

    And Tod: I am writing you a longer reply, so just hang on. :)
     
  21. Karoline

    Karoline Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's said that Tolkien built Lotr on Kalevala, I don't know if you finns know anything about that. I saw it on that National Geographic documentary. Kalevala's main character or whatever is an old man with magic powers. Now, I hate comparing Lotr with other stories, but this would be Gandalf.
     
  22. SamiS

    SamiS Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    the old guy would be Väinämöinen(in kalevala)...and they sing alot too
    like in lotr book
     
  23. Leto

    Leto Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maybe I´m making a fool of myself but, what is Kalevala!? ?[face_plain]
     
  24. Quiet Queen

    Quiet Queen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ooooh, shame on you, Leto! ;) The Kalevala is Finland?s national epic.

    It was written down very late, in the 19th century, but the songs in it hark back to the stone age. It tells of Finland?s mythical past, and as all such primordial myths, it is full of powerful magic.

    Tolkien ? a great admirer of things Finnish - draws on old Nordic epics in general. The Kalevala is certainly one of his sources. The two Eddas - where many names, such as Gandalf, originates - and the Beowulf Saga are others.
    It may be noted that Tolkien based the Elvish language Quenya on Finnish. And it shows!
    [face_mischief] :p :D
     
  25. Leto

    Leto Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ok ok, I give up QQ. Do you think one could find it in a library?
    Also, are we the only ones here?
     
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