What ship type was the Halleck?

From Shatterpoint/Equipment, we know:

-It was a "medium cruiser."
-It was wedge-shaped.
-It was equipped with 5 LAATs, 6 starfighters, and 20 Jadthus.
-It carried a thousand clone troopers.
-It was on detached service in enemy territory (or at least was prepared to be).
-It was in service as of 21.5 BBY.

Personally, the wedge-shape description was what had me wondering. I'm not fleet junky, but isn't a "medium" cruiser small for the traditional ISD shape?

 

Could just be Acclamator-class?

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Like the "supercruiser" of Cestus, the lack ship description bothers me. Not because knowing it's an Excellence cruiser or 2ndQuest frigate makes my day, but you can enrich your sentence with a simple word, it looks a lot less breezy which, after NJO, is Coruscant standard with SW.

On the other leg, the italicised names of Dark Rebd's Seltaya-class cruiser and Cestus' Limius-class taxi was wholly unnecessary, in that regard.

 

Seltaya-class courier, smart one.

 

Pfft. So you accrued 75 xp. Satisfied?

 

What bothers me most about the Seltaya is that the one "Yoda" takes to Ithor is a war-built single-seater starfighter, but the one at the end of the novel is a second-hand civilian ship with a large flight-deck, a galley, and some sort of crew space offering a fair amount of privacy...

I'm confused...

Maybe they're meant to be different variants, and maybe it's a larger fighter/scout that can be boarded via the cockpit canopy in a quirky sort of way... it just seems odd.

- The Imperial Ewok

 

It's like how in dark Lord, the military ship they steal si given two separate designatiosn throughout the book.

The Halleck can't be an Acclamator. Why would it only have 20 landers, 5 LAATs, and 6 escort fighters, when they know they'll probably be going into a war zone for a hostile extraction? The same for it only holding 1/16 of its troop complement.

Besides, would an Acclamator be ponly medium, especially at the time it takes place?

Maybe it's the same ship type as the Rand Ecliptic...

 

*Groan*

Do tell?

Same reason that the Fearless only carries one company?

If I was going for a wider retconn, I'd argue that, for any operation that isn't simply a hop from a base to a target, assault ships are better suited to carrying rather smaller forces than the large numbers they were designed for.

Also, given the way the Grand Army is deployed, it's quite possible that some ships have "lost" most of their original clone compliment to other duites...

Could work... but I see no reason that an Acclamator can't be "medium" - cruiser subtypes have historically been to do with firepower and tonnage, rather than simple size.

She could be something else; but she could still, IMHO, be Acclamator-class...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Then again, recall in The Unifying Force that one of the Alliance landing ships lost in Coruscant's dovin basal minefield is described as a 400-meter long wedge-shaped Rothana design of Clone Wars vintage. So we do apparently have smaller wedge-shaped assault ships from the same period and maker. Even if we assume Halleck was an Acclamator with a drawn-down troop force, I find it a hard sell that a ship that big would only be carrying six fighters and five gunships for support craft - or even if it was, that a ship of that scale would be that badly damaged by lightly-armed droid starfighters.

Plus, although Fearless only deploys one company in TZ, that doesn't neccessarily mean her whole clone contingent was employed - remember that they had to extract the 41st rather than slug out a prolonged battle, which means that it's possible they simply deployed one air cavalry unit rather than a full assault force with walkers and artillery.

 

Interesting about the small TUF wedge-shaped ship.

It's originally called an SX Troop Shuttle, and then later in the book is called an L-200 (I'm going off the top of my head so these probably aren't the exact designations, but something close).

 

It's always funny how they can be so into continuity and have such shoddy editing.

It wasn't supposed to be a hostile extraction, was it? It just happened to end up that way. Also, this seems more a problem with the equipment we know they brought, not what type of ship it is. It could've been a much larger ship, but the package remains the same.

Good question. I had just assumed they were measuring it by some other standard - that is, that just because the Republic didn't have large ships didn't mean larger ships didn't exist - but now that I think of that, it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

Wouldn't seem like proper precaution.

 

Rand Ecliptic seems to have been a carrier (4 large ventral hangars), so having such a paltry number of fighters and gunships aboard seems rather odd. The Jadthu-class landers wouldn't be taking up much space either, given that they have a capacity of only fifty troops apiece. In addition, from the images I've seen she has an Imperial-era bridge tower which would probably make her a postwar design.

 

I don't think it was supposed to be a hostile extraction, but it would make sense for them to plan for it (although I can't remember if it's actually stated in the book). After all, Haruun Kal was still a Separatist world and the Republic knew there were droid fighters stationed there.

 

Just from the size description, it could be a Carrack-class cruiser, modified into a rapid deployment troop transport (suited for Jedi/Commando raids, evacuations, ect).

Or maybe there are more types of ships in the Republic Navy that have yet to be named/invented. How long did it take for WEG and other EU to fill out the Imperial Navy to it's current diversity after RotJ was released? It might not be necessary to squeeze all of the new CW ship designs into pre-existing molds.

 

Actually, I'm fairly certain the book states that the Haruun Kal mission was supposed to be extremely covert. Mace goes in, gets Depa, the Halleck arrives within a limited window to extract the two Jedi before sensors pick up the orbiting ship.

At least that's how I remember it.

Bad planning? Yeah, but it serves the plot.

 

I'm pretty sure it was Gurney Class.

 

I noticed that 400m arrowhead in the TUF Coruscant assault, reflected to be similiar to the "old troop ships." So it's frigate-size. No big deal.

 

Bah, I wanted to say that.

 

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