Discussion in 'Community' started by BaronNoir, Dec 30, 2012.
To be fair it's been a quite a while since I last watched it, so my opinion isn't exactly concrete.
I'd say there are bits of every series that's worth watching, but TNG and DS9 are the Best IMO.
TNG has The Best of Both Worlds, The Inner Light, The Measure of a Man, Sins of the Father, Chain of Command and any episode with Q in it is always a gem. It's got its fair share of stinkers, especially in the first two seasons, but it is still an excellent show.
All of them have at least a couple seasons' worth of bad or mediocre episodes.
Agreed. Any episode with Q in it is worth watching. Q driving everybody crazy, pushing Picard's or Janeway's buttons and just generally being a exasperating nuisance can be pretty funny.
That's pretty good for TOS considering it was only 3 seasons to begin with.
That he was. Q was someone I could never see as a villain, but more like excellent comic relief.
Speaking of John DeLancie...boy, he's aged badly. I could barely recognize him on those episodes of Breaking Bad. His character's arc there was pretty damn tragic, though.
I loved the interaction with Sisko.
Then you should read Q-in-Law.
Q-in-Law totally should have been an episode. It was screamingly funny.
TOS films 2, 3, 4 & 6 would be a solid place to start- although there are a small handful of TOS episodes one might try for context that aren't too cheesy (ignoring TV production tropes of the time).
No matter what series you go with, though, there will be cheese of their era, be it 60's, 80's or 90's. However, it tends to dissipate more as you progress forward in time (TOS has way more cheese, TNG has less as it progresses, etc) thoguh there'll always be the random episode or subplot that doesn't work the way they probably hoped.
DS9 is the darkest of the shows, so i suppose one could say has the least amount of cheese- but even that takes 3 or 4 seasons to really hit that point.
I was raised on TNG and it will forever have a special place in my heart. But I also like to read/watch creative works in the order that they were made -- personally I think it's more entertaining that way, and you get to see how ideas evolved.
So I say go with TOS. As has been stated, yes it has lots of cheese, but that's part of the charm. (And you better get used to it if you want to get into Star Trek!) And it's not just because it's the original -- it really is a good show and very entertaining. Also, the first season of TNG was definitely bogged down by its attempts to imitate some of the (not so good in the 1980's) elements of TOS; it would probably be more...palatable...if you had an idea of where the writers and producers were coming from.
I never got much into the later series, though I have no complaints about what I did see of them. I've heard good things about DS9.
psh. i mean threatening to sexually assault a woman is pretty vile but declaring your intention to torture brannon braga just makes you a star trek fan
To be fair, he wrote some good TNG eps and his partnership with Ronald D. Moore resulted in "All Good Things..." and First Contact. It's just when he got to the EP role in Voyager and Enterprise (and maybe 'cause he lost Moore) that he got insufferable.
also i thought the crazed stalker fan might have adopted a klingon last name when i first read it but then i realized he's probably just filipino