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What they were saying in 1983 on the internet

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by djslybri, May 18, 2005.

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  1. DINVADER_RETURNS

    DINVADER_RETURNS Jedi Youngling star 3

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    But what percentage of the public got on the net back then, less than 1 percent, I'd say.
     
  2. Disco_Dark_Jeedai

    Disco_Dark_Jeedai Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What were they saying on the internet?

    Damn dial-up!!!
     
  3. wonder_alice

    wonder_alice Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That is so cool! Funny to see how bashers already existed back then... Gosh! Whatever Lucas does, there will always be someone to complain!

    In one thread, they brag about the fact that the ending of ROTJ was "too happy". If only they had seen the PT before (particularly ROTS) they would have been desperate for a happy ending!

    Some things never change...
     
  4. Thulium

    Thulium Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Funny, but not true. In 1983 there was really no such thing as a GUI to bog down a system or fancy graphics to make a 400baud connection seem slow. Unless you were doing a "extremely large" (and quite rare) file transfer--like an entire megabyte or something--there would have been little to no latency. Also, dial-up was practically non-existant for internet connections because the Point-to-Point protocol wasn't available for non-unix machines. The word "terminal" was used, rather than "computer" because most internet users weren't on a computer, they were on a terminal attached to the big unix computer elsewhere on campus which was inter-networked with other computers. If you were someone with a personal computer, it could not actually be connected to the network but would use a terminal emulator that would connect via modem and data rate would really only matter if you needed to pull a file from the computer onto your PC--but why?

     
  5. Darth_Deus

    Darth_Deus Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm so annoyed by people who think they know everything, and just can't admit when they're wrong. You dangle proof in front of their faces, and they still think Palpy is a clone, or the internet only started up after Windows 95 became popular. Ugh.....
     
  6. WhiskeyGold

    WhiskeyGold Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There have been an internet so to speak sents the late 60s. However I can't believe someone used the word Dail-up back then. Is this fake? Back around 83 I would use dail up to access local BBS systems to talk about Star Wars however I wouldn't call it a dail up back.

    Is this stuff fake?
     
  7. TwilightTraveler

    TwilightTraveler Jedi Youngling star 1

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    My question is when did Al Gore invent the internet then...was it before or after 1983? heehee

    Former user of an Apple IIc

     
  8. donarumo

    donarumo Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The review in the New Yorker is worthwhile reading. May 30th, 1983. The reviewer blames the director, Richard Marquand, for losing all the inherently fantastic moments available in the movie. He notes that Luke's confrontation with Darth and the Emperor was at least as full of potent as a scene from Hamlet--and that Marquand's direction squanders all the plot potential.

    Ha! :D
     
  9. Darth_Tassel

    Darth_Tassel Jedi Youngling

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    Lots of interesting stuff here, but I think the saddest thing I read is this post:

    But, what will Episodes VII, VIII, and IX be about? Will the
    Empire rise into power once more, lead by a sinister, new leader?
    Or will a new enemy terrorize the galaxy?

    *sigh*
     
  10. ViridianForTheWin

    ViridianForTheWin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    if im not mistaken the first internet browser was made back in 1992. mozzila as it was in a joint venture with netscape. how would you even browse to a chat group without a browser.
     
  11. EBSaints

    EBSaints Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That some funny stuff in there. Someone had a lot of time on their hands to make that group on Google.

    I can't believe people are actually debating whether or not this is real. Come on people.
     
  12. ThatsMyKit

    ThatsMyKit Jedi Youngling star 1

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    if im not mistaken the first internet browser was made back in 1992. mozzila as it was in a joint venture with netscape. how would you even browse to a chat group without a browser.

    The Internet is not just the World Wide Web. Mozilla is a web browser, not just a generic "internet browser".
     
  13. ViridianForTheWin

    ViridianForTheWin Jedi Youngling star 1

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    this is seeming more real to me.. weird.
     
  14. Sgt_Cade

    Sgt_Cade Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I was apart of BBS's back in the '80s, around 1983 I was accessing some local BBS's... however they were very basic and the BBS's didn' really start getting sophisticated (for the time, of course) games and message boards until 1986, and the golden age being 1989 - 1996 until the Internet became mainstream and basically wiped out the BBS's in my area. Thanks to telnet I can still access BBS's from afar, but I miss those days with a passion. I was apart of many Star Wars discussions back in the day though.
     
  15. I-think-I-wanna-Leia

    I-think-I-wanna-Leia Jedi Youngling star 1

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    If every "good" person who died appeared in holograms, Luke's aunt and
    uncle, not to mention all those Rebellion fighters, would have appeared
    with Obi-Wan, Yoda and Anakin. If it were the case that one must be a
    Jedi knight in order to die and turn into a hologram, Luke would've had
    to deal with a horde of dead Jedi holograms. Therefore, the only ones
    who could appear as holograms would have to be people Luke knew during
    his lifetime who were Jedis and died "good." This would explain why the
    Emperor wouldn't show up in Luke's holograms.


    Holograms= Force ghosts
    Forrest sleds= speederbikes

    I wonder what things from ROTS will will we name something stupid and later look back on.
    My money is on "sith eyes".
     
  16. Thulium

    Thulium Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I wonder if my grandkids will ever argue about if it was really an internet before anybody had implants to jack in. I bet they'll think that we complained all the time about how slow it was before global terabit wireless networking became commonplace.
     
  17. MasterShake5009

    MasterShake5009 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Good Find. Pretty interesting to see what people said back then.
     
  18. lysis

    lysis Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Very nice! I enjoyed this quite a bit; man, these guys were even bigger geeks than we are:





    In the rebels' holographic simulation (a beautiful effect), the Death
    Star is shown in a geostationary (well, endorstationary) orbit. It is
    also shown as being only a few Death-Star-radii from the surface, and
    certainly less than one Endor-radius.


    There is a contradiction here. For the stationary orbit to be that
    close, either the planet spins in only a few hours, or it has very light
    gravity. The scenes on Endor's surface showed no evidence of either of
    the above.


    Possible fixes: even when only partially operational, the Death Star
    could levitate; or maybe the shield generating station also provided
    levitation until the Death Star's engines came on line. Or maybe the
    planet did have very light gravity, but there was a humongous mascon
    right under the shield station, providing "normal" gravity in the
    immediate area. Except that you would expect a lake to collect...
    ---
    Jef


    Phil Karn Jun 6 1983, 4:45 pm show options

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    Gee, I'm ashamed that I didn't catch that one too. On the other hand,


    Phil Karn Jun 6 1983, 4:47 pm show options

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    Gee, I'm ashamed that I didn't catch that one too. The Death Star
    was obviously Endor-stationary because it had to sit within the
    stationary beam of the force field station. I suspect that it
    was "levitated" by the force field; that means that they didn't have
    to blow it up, it would just have crashed on the planet surface
    when the force field was destroyed!


    Phil


    Phil Karn Jun 6 1983, 11:47 pm show options

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    Come to think of it, I have a (weak) piece of evidence for my earlier
    assertion that the Death Star was not in stationary orbit but was rather
    being held up by the force field: the existence of gravity on the station!
    (Of course, I know of no Star Wars sequences featuring zero gravity, so...)


    Phil


    caf Jun 7 1983, 2:34 pm show options

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    I had the impression (from the Alliance Simulation) that it was in
    geosynchronus orbit about that moon. Of course one might question
    whether such a small body would be able to hold an atmosphere long
    enough to evolve Ewoks.


    The physics guffaws that gave me the jollies were the fireballs in
    vacuum. Oh well, I've learned to accept sound in vacuum ...
    --


    Chuck Forsberg, Chief Engr, Computer Development Inc.
    6700 S. W. 105th, Beaverton OR 97005 (503) 646-1599
    cdi!caf





     
  19. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    I've looked at these before and they're great. But this was, by far, my favourite part of any of the posts. In reference to the PT:

    All this needs is good acting (*where* are they
    going to find someone good enough to play Alec Guiness (pardon me, Ben
    Kenobi) as a young man??), not flashy, gratuitous special effects,
    excepting one scene where Kenobi throws Anakin=>Vader into the volcano.
    I only hope that Lucas can withstand the hordes of popularly opinionated
    types screaming and yelling for space opera. (Three were nice, more
    would be painful.)


    Oh miss 1983 fan? I give you the mythical land of ... Scotland. That's where. I'd love to go back and introduce them to 'Wedge's' 12 year old nephew ;)

    And hordes of opinionated SW fans?! Never!

    -sj loves kevin spacey
     
  20. Anakin_Skywalker20

    Anakin_Skywalker20 Jedi Master star 5

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    whoa... I can't believe that this person thought that force ghosts were holograms instead of force ghosts :p [face_laugh] lol :p thats kinda funny... :p
     
  21. YodaJediMaster12

    YodaJediMaster12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    solojones that post you unearthed is rich!
     
  22. matt999

    matt999 Jedi Youngling

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    I like this discussion about the internet. I graduated from college in 1995 (God, has it been that long already??).

    At the time, the engineering labs did have internet access. No graphics, just text. I remember the UseNet groups well (I used to debate why my Alma Mater, Penn State, should have been National Champs that year instead of Nebraska) because there were bulletin boards for all sorts of stuff, just like now.

    There were also primitive forms of chat rooms. The one that I used the most was called Speedway. The nomenclature we use now (31/m/PA) was already in use at that time. I was blown away that I could talk to people in real time through a computer. LOts of fun.

    The week of my finals senior year, the chem engineering lab had all of its computers upgraded to have access to the "World Wide Web". I didn't see the point, the graphics took forever to download. I spent 10 minutes looking at the "Web" before heading off to pack up my dorm room.

    Just thought I'd share :)
     
  23. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Moving up to save.
     
  24. Palpateen

    Palpateen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I only hope that Lucas can withstand the hordes of popularly opinionated
    types screaming and yelling for space opera.


    Wow, that was a prophetic statement! :eek:
     
  25. Serendipity

    Serendipity Guest

    wow... that's really a great discovery!

    is anyone who posted back then now around here on this forum ...?

    since when does this board exist anyway?

     
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