years and years ago have no memory of it. no no no, you won't get away with this... we know the jedi suspect lies, deceit and mistrust. so, while they suspected that they simply expected a *different* sort of lie, deceit and mistrust? but you already said what the jedi expected the sith to operate like. so, what did the sith do different from what the jedi expected? they had freaking ten years to figure something out beyond extremely rushed decisions and yet all they could come up with (when the sith used lies, deceit and mistrust - as expected) was a rushed decision and some half-arsed spying. so either they were delusional or extremely stupid. there was not even any emergency plan! they just made things up as they went along! it's quite amazing the jedi order lasted this long, when i think about it.