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Discussion What will the last shot in the Skywalker Saga/Episode IX be?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode IX - Spoilers Allowed' started by AndrewPascoe, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    Firstly I apologies - I visit several Star Wars forums and I can’t recall seeing a post like this here. I did a quick search and couldn’t find a similar thread but if there is packer up and close.

    Anyways what does everyone feel the last shot of the Skywalker Saga will be? A happy family group shot? Rey at the precipice where she met Luke looking over a new jedi temple? Luke’s hand floating through space?
     
  2. BalanceOfTheForce

    BalanceOfTheForce Jedi Knight star 3

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    Rey and Kylo in their brand new Jedi temple with the ghosts watching over them.
     
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  3. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rey, Finn and Poe freeing the children on Canto Bight with Rey clearly taking one on as an apprentice.
     
  4. Lost_Hope

    Lost_Hope Jedi Knight star 2

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    There will be sand somewhere in the shot. Mark my words. You heard it here first!
     
  5. NileQT87

    NileQT87 Jedi Master star 2

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    Rey + Ben.

    It's the Skywalker/Solo saga. Ben Solo is the only one left. He will be redeemed and the bloodline will continue. Ben has to be the focus, regardless of certain antis wanting the story to be about anyone but what the story actually centers on. Han, Leia and Luke's deaths cannot be in vain. Their story and what they died for can't be irrelevant.

    Probably sand. I wouldn't be shocked to see Tatooine or somewhere ultra nostalgic. The Binary Sunset might return. Or it could be something more specific to Ben and/or Rey.
     
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  6. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If this is the end of the Skywalker/Solo Saga, then there is no guarantee that Ben lives. Further more....the Resistance is reborn, the war against tyranny will continue and even Luke will not be the last Jedi. None of their deaths were in vain, they helped guide the new heroes so even if their own blood ends in darkness (completely possible considering) the galaxy itself will still be saved by the light.
     
  7. NileQT87

    NileQT87 Jedi Master star 2

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    Nowhere in my post did I write that it was the END of the Skywalker/Solo saga, just that it still is the Skywalker/Solo saga. Trying to remove Ben from the A-plot is wanting it to be about something other than the Skywalker/Solo family.

    The Rebellion/Resistance vs. Empire/First Order is not what this saga or trilogy is about. It never was.
     
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  8. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Kathleen Kennedy has stated that George Lucas planned to end the Skywalker saga at 9....and at the time of the interview she was inclined to honor that. Further more we see Star Wars moving past the Skywalkers what with the GOT crew being given movies set elsewhere just like Rian Johnson has been given a trilogy far away from the Skywalkers to work on.

    Ben will be part of Episode 9's main plot, he just might die at the end of it for a variety of reasons and in a number of ways.

    http://www.slashfilm.com/skywalker-saga-ending/

    KK
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    the piece mentions that not only will the current trilogy come to an end with Episode 9, but that Abrams says that could also be the end of the Skywalker saga as a whole.

    KK again

    Notice who is NOT mentioned.
     
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  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I love this idea. Maybe, after a Resistance defeat of the First Order, we’ll have a shot of Rey and Blagge or another child entering the ancient Jedi Temple, with Finn, Poe and BB-8 looking on in the background and smiling.
     
  10. Strategize

    Strategize Jedi Knight star 2

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    Option A: Ben Solo dies a monster as the deaths of Han, Luke and Leia go in vain and the enitre Skywalker legacy goes up in flames as it's destroyed by a bunch of heroic randoms. The entire saga therefore gets painted as a cynical and nihilistic war story about a family destroying the galaxy. Instead of a hopeful myth about a family and love with ups and downs, but ultimately an up.

    Option B: Ben Solo attempts to redeem himself after being overtaken by greed and gas lighting most of his life. He can never forget the crimes he's committed, so he uses them as fuel to spend the rest of his life trying to make the galaxy a better place, and does so with the help of Rey, and eventually the rest of the resistance if they can ever move on from his crimes and accept him as an ally. The Skywalker Legacy is maintained, and doesn't die for no reason. :anakin::padme::vader::leia::luke::han::kylo: =D=
     
  11. milena

    milena Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yep, sand...somewhere.in.the.shot.
     
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  12. DjTomek

    DjTomek Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Well the whole thing started on Tatooine and i think it will end on Tatooine with someone looking at the sunset.
     
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  13. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Option A: Ben Solo dies a monster as the deaths of Han, Luke and Leia go in vain and the enitre Skywalker legacy goes up in flames as it's destroyed by a bunch of heroic randoms. The entire saga therefore gets painted as a cynical and nihilistic war story about a family destroying the galaxy. Instead of a hopeful myth about a family and love with ups and downs, but ultimately an up.

    Option B: Ben Solo attempts to redeem himself after being overtaken by greed and gas lighting most of his life. He can never forget the crimes he's committed, so he uses them as fuel to spend the rest of his life trying to make the galaxy a better place, and does so with the help of Rey, and eventually the rest of the resistance if they can ever move on from his crimes and accept him as an ally. The Skywalker Legacy is maintained, and doesn't die for no reason. :anakin::padme::vader::leia::luke::han::kylo: =D=[/QUOTE]

    Option C: Ben Solo dies in darkness, and the deaths of Han Luke and Leia are shown to inspire new generations of heroes to be more than they ever thought was possible. The entire saga becomes about a families heroic legacy overshadowing the destruction caused by some of it's members because ultimately what is remembered is what is built because that is what endures. Future heroes are clearly inspired by the families legacy even if they share not one drop of blood with them.
     
  14. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Option C: Kylo Ren owns his past behavior and attempts to atone, eventually sacrificing himself to save the Resistance and end the First Order.

    No cynicism or nihilism, still a hopeful story about a man who really did finish what his grandfather started by emulating his example. The Skywalker legacy ends well and passes the torch along to the next group of Force-sensitives, who take Luke’s words to heart about the Force not being limited to either one organized religious group and about there being no “Force-royalty.”
     
  15. Strategize

    Strategize Jedi Knight star 2

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    That's basically exactly what already happened in TLJ anyway. Cool, no character development at all in Episode 9 then, awesome. Besides, Han died for one reason only and it was personal. Only Luke died for the greater good, although that was also personal aswell, for the same person.
     
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  16. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Final shot of the film is our three new heroes standing on Ach-to, celebrating the lives of their fallen mentors, while planning to build on this foundation a new lighthouse of the force.
     
  17. Lost_Hope

    Lost_Hope Jedi Knight star 2

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    Oh God every thread becomes Kylo Dies vs Kylo Lives...

    And people wonder why there is only one legacy child in ST and he is conflicted villian.

    The biggest question for the last episode in SW Saga with 40 years history.
     
  18. DjTomek

    DjTomek Jedi Padawan star 2

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    If Kylo dies Luke will be the biggest fool in the Force Ghost Club. All of them will facepalm when he comes around and tell him he should have killed that sucker when he had the chance. Dammit Luke.
     
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  19. Adept

    Adept Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So you admit that we're already moving in this direction, that there is nothing nihilistic about Luke, Leia and han inspiring other generations of heroes....good we're on the same page. As for character development, learning HOW to build something, and not just fight evil would be the real goal of our new heroes...while Kylo Ren brings about his own destruction because he can't handle actually LEADING the First Order. He has none of the skills for it, nor the paitence and that mixed with his unwillingness to change...is ultimatly what undoes him.

    In the end Han lived to make the universe a better place, that is far more important legacy than him dying because of his son. The moment he made the choice to get involved again despite all the pain he'd suffered because of his son's decisions is the moment where Han cemented his legacy.
     
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  20. Strategize

    Strategize Jedi Knight star 2

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    Crazy how some hardcore Luke fans can look at TLJ and then also turn around and want Kylo to die. Luke gave Kylo his last and only lesson he could teach before his death, he gave Ben the closure he wanted so he could finally move on with his life. If being Supreme Leader doesn't satisfy him, if a dead Luke Skywalker doesn't satisfy him, there's nowhere to go but down and Luke knows that.
     
  21. Strategize

    Strategize Jedi Knight star 2

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    There's no reason Han had to die then, his death was purely 100% personal and it made an impact on Kylo despite not fully redeeming him. Nobody's denying Han's heroism, but I'm talking about his death specifically, it can't be for nothing.
     
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  22. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I don’t think Han’s death needs to do anything other than prove that Kylo was willing to kill his father who was trying to reach him, and bring Han’s own arc full circle—when we first met him in ANH, he was a cynical anti-hero, but he died a hero trying to save his son.

    I’m not a hard-core Luke fan, BTW. I much preferred Han and Leia in the OT.
     
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  23. NileQT87

    NileQT87 Jedi Master star 2

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    Are we talking about the same Han that hardly gave two figs about the Rebellion or the Resistance? Firstly, he was hiding out from Jabba, then gave the ultimatum on leaving unless there was any reason for him to stay (Leia, personal) that didn't involve the Rebellion. He stuck around to protect Luke and Leia, his new family, not because he believed in the cause. Also, this is the same Han that high-tailed it out of the Resistance and went back to smuggling when his family shattered.

    Han had only one thing on his mind when he approached Ben: mend his broken family. The Resistance was irrelevant. He also did it to try to mend his relationship with Leia, as well as bring his son home. Do you really think the home being offered was the Resistance that would never forgive Kylo Ren? No. Han was offering the love of family, not a cause. After this, there's a reason why Ben doesn't respond to Rey's cause when he's also pointedly offering himself, not just power. Han might have failed, but Rey can pick up where he left off because of his sacrifice causing so much guilt and emotional turmoil. Han succeeded in pulling Ben closer to the Light, even if he didn't live to see it and Ben is still trying to fight it.

    Nobody can say with a straight face that Han, who threatened to or left the cause repeatedly, died for a "greater" cause than saving his family.
     
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  24. Strategize

    Strategize Jedi Knight star 2

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    And he failed, he's a failure as a father. There's nothing heroic about that unless his death continues to have meaning and be one of factors to cause a change in his son. Then he won't be a failure.
     
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  25. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    You’re actually blaming Han for the fact that Kylo stabbed him with a lightsaber? Really?

    The blame for that act is solely on Kylo. It is in no way a failure on Han’s part.

    Kylo had his choices, and he chose badly.

    The idea that Kylo, a 30-year-old man, was doing the equivalent of a small spoiled child saying in a pouty manner, “Make me come back to the light side why dontcha”—and deserves no blame for that behavior—is ridiculous.

    I think those who sympathize with Kylo and those who do not could have meeting of the minds if we could at least start from the point that Kylo alone is responsible for what Kylo does, at least as an adult. And we could have a better discussion as to what his fate should be as this generation’s only Skywalker, for the purpose of this thread, as well.
     
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