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ST What would get you so mad that you would walk out of Episode VII?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by JediKnightOB1, Oct 31, 2012.

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  1. mavjade

    mavjade Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I can't really comment as to fighter pilots seeing as I'm not one, but I do work in life or death situations and there is a lot of over the top banter and what most would consider ill timed humor. For a lot of people this is a so to me, the banter is a more real situation than completely serious pilots.
     
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  2. DARTHLARS

    DARTHLARS Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I could stand musical numbers. I could stand gungans stepping in Poodoo. I could even stand Justin Bieber. But there is one thing that I can not stand, that I don't see being Star Wars at all: Yuzhaan Vong.

    Vong is wrong, plain and simple. I refuse to see that as being part of Star Wars, not even part of any eventual alternative-universe Star Wars. As much as I love hard science fiction. If I see a Vong on screen, I would look away, cover my ears and run out, shouting LA LA THIS IS NOT HAPPENING over and over until I am out of the movie theatre complex altogether. Then I would look myself in my bedroom and not come out for a week.

    OK. timetravel would almost make me do this too. *shudder*

    So you are in the camp that hates Ewoks, then? ;) In my view, Avatar is basically another take of the Ewoks' story in ROTJ. Evil outlanders came and pillaged, but the good natives didn't stand a chance until the good outlanders came and helped overthrow the evil outlanders.
    The same theme was used in TPM. Evil outlanders (The Trade Federation) invaded and threatened the good natives (Gungans) way of life. Gungans had some technology, but very primitive compared to the Trade Federation.
     
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  3. The Crippled God

    The Crippled God Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I have actually walked out of a Star Wars movie before it ended. It was Attack of the Clones. I was so ... angry that I couldn't bear watching anymore. I've mellowed on it a bit, but I was well and truly disappointed the first time I saw it. So I guess if we get a silly Jedi vs battle droids medieval battle with almost no Jedi being agile, interspersed with awkward Threepio moments and Sam Jackson's incredibly hammy performance...I'll walk.

    Actually I watched Clones yesterday on request from my son and found myself actually enjoying parts of it (which was seriously unexpected) to the point I began wondering what was wrong with me. I think I enjoyed my son's questions (I have to translate for him), his glee at certain scenes, thrilling to the action in the droid factory etc. making me less grumpy about it all. Heck I even got goosebumps when Anakin said he hated them sandfolk.
     
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  4. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Do yourself a favor, leave the kids at home. Knowing how crazy and loud this movie is going to be, plus potty breaks, probably not a good idea to take a two year old to see Star Wars. Just Sayin'.
     
  5. Lord Tuvitor

    Lord Tuvitor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would get really mad and leave the theater if the projector broke, once they gave me my money back or tickets for the next showing. :p
     
  6. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Force Ghost star 4

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    I have the same concerns but I think Mark can pull off an Obi-Wan type of character (or even Qui-Gon, who had a bigger role in TPM). He made a fairly generic, bland hero like Luke very likable, and that requires some skill. (look at Daniel Radcliffe as not so successful example).
     
  7. Robimus

    Robimus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Meh, I sat through Wing Commander - so nothing.
     
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  8. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Force Ghost star 4

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    I don't think I've ever come out of any movie before, even if I felt it wasn't good. However, I've avoided those that had really bad word of mouth and overwhelmingly bad reviews.The worst I can think of was Ang Lee's Hulk (boring) and 2004 Punisher (simply crappy). Oh, and Lars Von Trier's Melancholy. I guess I just can't tolerate artsy self-indulgence. At least Lucas has some great visuals and underlying mythology to entertain me even if I'm not completely immersed into the movie.
     
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  9. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Response to the thread's title: Seeing the Magic Kingdom logo.
     
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  10. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Force Ghost star 4

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    You mean you're not going to watch it at all? [face_hypnotized]
     
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  11. Doug625

    Doug625 Jedi Knight star 1

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    if the dialogue is as bad as the prequel trilogy. It seemed to written for 6 year olds to understand
     
  12. DarthMak

    DarthMak Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "Meesa back!"
     
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  13. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    this is a true story, but when the new star trek movie came out, like that night me and my friends go to see and right as we're at like the end scene and the fire alarm system goes off and we're force to evacuate the building and then we were all grumbling until we heard that they were going to finish showing the movie. so something like that would make me mad.
     
  14. drg4

    drg4 Jedi Master star 4

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    I actually can't watch AOTC due to the schizophrenic feelings it engenders.

    "I love this movie!"
    One minute later: "I hate this movie!"
    Two minutes later: "Wow, that's great stuff!"
    One minute later: "Lucas, what in God's name is wrong with you?"

    Ad infinitum...
     
  15. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Most of the hatred directed toward AOTC is really displaced TPM butthurt. That's why it tends to improve when actually watched.
     
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  16. stellarmagic01

    stellarmagic01 Jedi Master star 4

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    The romantic scenes are the most awkward things ever written though.
     
  17. Lando's Little Maneuver

    Lando's Little Maneuver Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Agreed, I really liked AotC bar the romance scenes. It would rank up there with the OT if the romance wasn't so ham fistededly written and acted.
    The sand monolouge? Cripes, Anakin creeped me the hell out in that scene, he looked like he was considering rape.
     
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  18. Lando's Little Maneuver

    Lando's Little Maneuver Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Also this is my first post back here since AotC screened, I jumped ship to avoid the RotS spoilers and never came back.
    So hi all. :)
     
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  19. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    "I hate sand. It gets everywhere... deep into every tight little nook and crevice. Kind of like what I'm planning to do to you... did I say that out loud?"
     
  20. The Crippled God

    The Crippled God Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Anakin does have a lot of awkward staring going on in this here movie, no doubt. He's creepy..."a cunning warrior and a good friend..."
     
  21. KevinM1

    KevinM1 Jedi Master star 2

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    If it turns out to be as wooden, CGI, and boringly shot as the PT.

    Visually, the PT looked very much like an uninspired video game. Lots of clutter and chaos and movement, but not a lot of consideration of lighting, or scale, or framing. The OT is famous for various scenes, many of them simply shot: the Tantive IV fleeing from the Star Destroyer. Luke staring wistfully at the two suns. The cantina. The dark side cave on Dagobah. Yoda lifting the X-Wing out of the swamp (you can see Luke and R2 in the distance, below the front landing strut as it comes towards him). The entire carbon freezing scene. The initial duel silhouettes. There aren't many moments like that in RotJ... maybe the Luke-looking-a-bit-like-Vader as he first enters Jabba's palace scene and the end of the lightsaber duel, when it's shot from the side and Luke is pushing Vader back to the bridge, before the camera angle changes again.

    The point is, there are very clear moments when the OT 'speaks' with the language of film. The PT stumbles mightily in that regard. Sure, there's often a lot of things on the screen, but for the most part it's so cluttered, shot straight-on, or just lacks any weight or meaning due to how fake most of it looks. Look at one of the final images of AotC, when the clones go off to war. It should be a very emotional, heavy scene, but it comes across as flat due to its obvious computer generated nature. None of it looks real, so none of it feels real. It's mere spectacle that doesn't transcend like it should.

    The acting only compounded this issue. It was obvious that the actors weren't emotionally involved. Ewan did the best, but when actors like Natalie Portman check out, there's a problem. Part of it is due to Lucas being a horrible director (seriously, check out the behind the scenes - there's more to directing than drinking coffee and instructing actors to speak faster/slower), and part of it is due to virtually everything being done on a blue screen set.

    The new movies need to do the following: get a director that can direct, build real sets filled with real extras and real Muppets, and learn to use the language of film to convey meaning. Anything short of that (which, if we're being honest, should be the bare minimum of any film not made by Syfy) will cause me to walk out.
     
  22. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Honestly, I just don't want to see any new SW films, especially ones coming from Disney. :p

    Maybe when more information comes, I'll look into it.
     
  23. smallpaul

    smallpaul Jedi Master star 3

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    A Marvel-Star Wars crossover.
    Kirsten Stewert.
    Zombies.
    Vampires.
    Adam Sandler as the new Sith lord.
     
  24. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Chosen One star 5

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    If the PT looks like an uninspired video game, actual uninspired video games look like blurry, blocky dog poop.

    And Dagobah in ESB looks very much like a film set to me. Or in the language of hyperbole, an uninspired combination of a few loads of dirt and a fog machine, hastily arranged by some set bloke in between his doughnut dunking sessions.
     
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  25. Jedi_Lover

    Jedi_Lover Chosen One star 5

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    If you keep complaining about kids in the theater you are going to jinx yourself. You'll probably end up sitting in the theater when suddenly the remaining seats get filled up with a fourth grade class of students on a field trip and every one had 7-11 gassy burritos and a Big Gulp before coming to the theater. Oh yeah, they are also hyperactive and suffer from oppositional defiant behavior (Something like that happened to me once:oops: ).
     
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