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ST What's next for the Republic and the First Order?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by PalpShouldLive, Dec 21, 2015.

  1. PalpShouldLive

    PalpShouldLive Jedi Master star 2

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    The Republic's capital is completely destroyed as are billions or trillions of citizens. I assume they don't want to stand by and do nothing.

    Will it be total war for the Republic now? I hope to see fleet battles.
    Can they even respond now that so much leadership has been destroyed on Hosnian Prime?
    Will Leia take charge of the Remnants of the Republic?

    Does the First Order try to take control of the rest of the galaxy now? Was the destruction of Starkiller base a massive counter-blow causes the FO to collapse back into hiding and focus on Skywalker?
     
  2. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    There will just rebuild another SKB and destroy Lukes Hideout planet..
     
  3. Vespasian

    Vespasian Jedi Master star 2

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    Yeah, the Republic and the Resistance will be merged now into a single entity, and the galactic cold war will be transformed into a new galactic civil war between the unified Republic/Resistance and the First Order.

    However, I think it should be stressed that Coruscant is still out there; "Hosnian Prime" was destroyed actually. Apparently the new Republic had a moving capital, somewhat like the rotating presidency of the European Union, so the political leading class, an innocent planet and part of the fleet were destroyed. The Republic itself should remain.
     
  4. CnlSandersdeKFC

    CnlSandersdeKFC Jedi Knight star 2

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    Also, it raises the question that with a seemingly large portion of their fleet destroyed, what happens to the rest of Republic space? Does it stay unified, or in the wake of such a crippling blow to both the bureaucracy, and the military do planets begin to splinter off? Are other factions now created due to the lack of strong leadership? Do member planets secede?
     
  5. Stoneymonster

    Stoneymonster Force Ghost star 4

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    Perhaps we'll get something we haven't seen before in SW: more than one major faction.
     
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  6. Jmacq1

    Jmacq1 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It'd be interesting to see both sides put back on their heels. The First Order reeling from the loss of Starkiller Base and all the personnel stationed there and the Republic/Resistance from losing the political leadership and a chunk of the fleet (which apparently isn't all THAT large to begin with).

    But what will probably happen is that the Resistance will remain the only group fighting the First Order until the climax of Episode IX when the Republic will finally join in with them.

    Or conversely, maybe a bunch of "secretly" Imperial-sympathetic worlds change sides and the sides become more even, because the First Order is more a well-organized and fanatical splinter group than "the whole of the Empire" from what I'm gathering.

    I just hope we avoid giant superweapons from here on out.
     
  7. Stoneymonster

    Stoneymonster Force Ghost star 4

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    Small ones are ok.
     
  8. Kynirin

    Kynirin Jedi Knight star 1

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    The whole state of the galaxy is a little unclear to me after the movie, but I wonder how bad a shape the Republic really is in right now. The situation right now feels like the reverse of what happened with Return of the Jedi. The Empire lost their leader, which sent them reeling, all of it started coming apart. Some of it survived and managed to rally into the First Order, others were lost to the entity that emerged out of the Rebel Alliance in the shape of the Republic.

    Now the Republic lost their Senate, so their leadership, and the First Order might stand in a decent position to grab at least some of the systems that were under the Republic's sphere of influence. Surely the Resistance can't prevent that. One of them said that they had already lost "half" of their fleet during the attack on Starkiller. Although I assume it just looked like their entire fleet size was some 20 odd starfighters and they actually have some more size to them. :) But I imagine the Resistance, namely Leia, could be approached for taking over, or she could on her own make a move towards rallying the Republic if they really are left leaderless with this. That might give us a strong and more military-oriented Republic and a proper war on the First Order.
     
  9. Olibar1

    Olibar1 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I believe we will see a Galaxy that much more resembles Europe after the fall of Rome, with dozens or hundreds of regional powers rising up without a strong central control, and with a continued loss of technological capability and rule of law. The Republic can only be a superpower with the Jedi Order as their "nuclear option" to maintain control, and it's going to be a while before there are 1,000s of trained Jedi in the Galaxy again. Particularly if Luke doesn't figure out that Yoda was right about starting training early to prevent Anakin/Ben Solo situations from destroying the order from within.
     
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  10. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    War! :p

    It might be a deadly war of tit for tat now there's no longer this bipolar cold war existence keeping things somewhat stabilized. It's now a multi-polar or even non-polar one.

    The main issue now might be both sides don't have the power to completely destroy one another so it's this deadly war of attrition.
     
  11. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    While this could happen it would still end up being the Resistance and the Republic vs The First Order.
     
  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yep. Multi-polarity.
     
  13. redinight

    redinight Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Well, I suppose the First Order will have to...Strike Back...
     
  14. jester006

    jester006 Jedi Youngling

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    one theory I have of what may occur in Episode 8:

    Let's consider the involvement and aftermath of Starkiller Base. Yes, its an old and unoriginal idea. However, it was able to destroy the center of the New Republic along with its fleet in the Hosnian system before it in turn was destroyed. So, with both sides seeming to have lost what appears to be their most important assets, does this not open up a possibility that the next movie will be about a struggle in the Force instead of technological superiority?

    remember what Darth Vader said in Episode IV?:

    "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."

    After all, Max van Sydow's character (Lor San Tekka) did mention in the first scene that he couldn't stand by anymore with the Force out of balance. Also, when Rey asked Maz Kanata to specify which fight Han was running away from, she (Maz) replied it was the fight against the dark side. All this with the introduction of the Knights of Ren dovetail nicely to do a dark side vs lightside themed story.
     
  15. Stoneymonster

    Stoneymonster Force Ghost star 4

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    Not if a third player emerges to fill the Republic vacuum.
     
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  16. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Yes, but what would you have in mind to do so?
     
  17. Stoneymonster

    Stoneymonster Force Ghost star 4

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    No idea really :)
     
  18. Olibar1

    Olibar1 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    How about the Hutts?
     
  19. All_Powerful_Jedi

    All_Powerful_Jedi Force Ghost star 4

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    A Star War between the two.
     
  20. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Benicio Del Toro's character!

    A new faction to replace the failed FO and NR.

    A First Order/New Republic alliance versus New Bad dudes.
     
  21. Stoneymonster

    Stoneymonster Force Ghost star 4

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    There were rumors early on of Han commanding a Star Destroyer. Indeed, in Aftermath it's clear the Republic captures many Imperial vessels. I thought it would've been cool to see the old heroes uncomfortably manning the trappings of their old enemy.
     
  22. OneTrueOverlord

    OneTrueOverlord Jedi Knight star 1

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    I agree with this. With the attack on Hosnian Prime, I can't see a reason why the Resistence should continue to exist as a seperate entity from the New Republic, and would continue to exist as an extension of the Galactic Republic in the Galactic North.

    Also the Republic could remain for the most part intact, with many of the administration maybe moving back to Coruscant for the time being until a stable government is formed. I know that they did not see the attack coming, but they must have some contingency plans on whether some natural disaster happened to occur on the current Capital or something happens when the government is incapacitated. The New Republic did arise from a very recent war after all.

    I was hoping this would be the case in VII, hence the 'Awakening'

    But I can also see this happening in VIII.