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What's Palpatine's Origin Story?

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by adlion94, Mar 12, 2005.

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  1. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Darth Plaugeis raised him from birth to be evil. End of story.

    That's just the best way to say it!
     
  2. DukeNukem

    DukeNukem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    when was darth bane invented by lucas?
     
  3. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    When he created the character of a Sith Lord, who created the rule of two, that was Lucas. The full details were fleshed out by Terry Brooks. But the general basics was all Lucas, as you see in the quote I posted.
     
  4. DukeNukem

    DukeNukem Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Im just trying to remember if Lucas ever mentioned Bane
     
  5. Arliss

    Arliss Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Supershadow.....ughyuch!!!! disgusting. Someone should let that guy know this is Star Wars and not Harry Potter.
     
  6. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lucas never mentioned Bane, but he did mention the Sith Lord who was modeled from him. Lucas told that to Brooks and Brooks was the one who came up with the name, Darth Bane, as far as we are aware of.
     
  7. AqUaMuLe

    AqUaMuLe Jedi Knight star 2

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    amazing . I posted this same question about 2 months ago and I got completely slammed because......

    "It had been discussed in a previous thread....blah blah blah"

    JO's
     
  8. rab_uk

    rab_uk Jedi Youngling

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    yeah Darth Bane was mentioned in one of the phantom menace official books..i think it was the visual guide thing with loads of photos...but i am really looking forward to finding out about palpatines origins more, which i reckon after ep3 lucas will allow eu to flesh out and explore...would love to see a comic involving plagueis and palps...sahweet.
     
  9. YYZ-2112

    YYZ-2112 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "I'm about to enjoy a half-pound Force burrito from Jedi Bell." Kotzenjunge

    LMAO!! I near fell outa my chair on that one.
     
  10. Emos-Edud

    Emos-Edud Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This is an easy topic to answer.

    Chancellor Palaptine is from Kamino or some other planet that shares its primary export. We will probably get a little bit of this info in Ep3.
     
  11. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Still suffering from delusions of granduer?
     
  12. Emos-Edud

    Emos-Edud Jedi Padawan star 4

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    That's funny, a mod breaking the TOS? Who'd a thunk it!

    FYI, you might want to look up the meaning of "delusions of grandeur" before the next time you use it in an attempted bait/troll. Insults should be at least remotely accurate to be effective. However, accurate or not they are against the TOS.

    Good luck!
     
  13. Dash_Renndar

    Dash_Renndar Jedi Youngling star 4

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  14. Dash_Renndar

    Dash_Renndar Jedi Youngling star 4

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    yodaboyman posted on 3/12/05 7:24am
    Darth Bane took on a new apprentice, whom he dubbed Darth Seer. With Darth Seer, he hid upon Coruscant, where the Sith were to remain for several generations. Darth Bane established a Rule of Two, only one master and one apprentice at a time, the sole inheritors of the Dynatic Sith Dynasty.
    Upon his death of old age, Darth Seer established a formalized Code for the Sith Order, recruiting the next Sith, Darth Mongerer, who followed his code. One rule was of course, the Rule of Two. Another was that a Sith apprentice needed to construct his own light saber and it had to be red-bladed. The secret to making a red-bladed Sith light saber was to be found in the Sith Holocron. The Sith Holocron was encrypted by a password code containing a long series of Sith words. Darth Seer further insisted the title ?Darth? which merely meant ?shadow warrior? be made equivalent with the title ?Lord? in honor of Darth Bane. This was to remind all future Sith that being a Sith Lord meant always being a warrior.
    Darth Seer died of old age, succeeded by his apprentice. Darth Mongerer faithfully continued the Order of the Sith in hiding on Coruscant. A Jedi dueled and beheaded Darth Mongerer, but Mongerer hid the fact that he was a Sith and his apprentice succeeded him as Sith Master. Around this time, Yoda D?Kana the Whill was born on Grentarik, the World of Records. Yoda?s father, Syville Demetris D?Kana, allowed his son to be taken in by the Jedi Order at a young age. Yoda trained under Bontu Sitmus the orange Whill. Bontu Sitmus trained under Losho Yik. Bontu Sitmus became a legend in his own lifetime by slaying 7 Dark Jedi at a single time, all by himself.
    Two centuries into the Dynatic Sith Dynasty, the Sith Lord Darth Gilgon discovered Darth Augor on the planet Nefeyi. The young Darth Augor grew to become one of the greatest Sith of all time. Darth Gilgon was slain with a Force tornado, making Darth Augor the Master. Darth Augor slew dozens of Jedi, but was in turn ambushed and slain by 17 Jedi, including the young Yoda. Darth Augor concealed his identity as a Sith and the Sith Order continued undetected.
    When Yoda was 177, the Jedi Holocron kept by Shintor Beerus was rediscovered, prophesying the One who would bring Balance to the Force. Yoda was a more formidable Jedi than Evins Croslod and even Aenon Jurtis, the most formidable Jedi before his time. Many considered Yoda to be the fulfillment of the prophecy, but upon examining the Holocron, Yoda could not be the One, for the One would be born of a virgin mother. Yoda was trained by Bontu Sitmus, who in turn had been trained by Tracktius Mutheon.
    Yoda rose through the ranks, eventually becoming a member of the Jedi Council under Lady Lidius Frotgus. Under her, the Jedi Holocron kept by Shintor Beerus was rediscovered. Yoda lived during the rise of the most powerful Dark Jedi ever (with the exception of the Sith). This Dark Jedi was Norius Havok of Eegius, who lived 150 years before the events of The Phantom Menace.
    Unnoticed to the Jedi, one Sith succeeded another on Coruscant, eventually leading up to Darth Frordon of Dresdane. On Dresdane, Frordon set up a duel between his apprentice Baltimort and Baltimort?s potential replacement, Imperius. Baltimort and Imperius were each Baraosi, both from the planet Bothiwite, also known as Tindell 5, the fifth planet of the Tindell Star System. Since Imperius had a collection of kyber crystals, but was less experienced than Baltimort, Imperius and Baltimort teamed up against Frordon. Baltimort became Imperius? master, until Imperius slew Baltimort by an ever-growing collection of kyber crystals and heightened skill. Imperius slew Baltimort by means of a Force earthquake. Imperius was eventually slain by a Dark Jedi called Plagueis. After Plagueis defeated Darth Imperius, Plagueis became a Sith called Darth Plagueis.
    Soon afterwards, Darth Plagueis apprenticed a young boy from Naboo, Dantius Palpatine and
     
  15. Sith_Dreamer

    Sith_Dreamer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ^ EU... not even close. Supershadow is the culprit here, and makes up the worst possible BS imaginable.
     
  16. COMMANDER76

    COMMANDER76 Jedi Master star 4

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    wow i enjoyed reading that supershadow retelling by yodaboy....its interesting and plausible, notice i said plausible and not true. all we know of palpatine is that he's 62 in episode 3, not the chosen one, and the most powerful force master either jedi or sith in 500 years, and that he doesn't appreciate master jedi threatening him....lol.
     
  17. Ewan

    Ewan Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Darth Plaugeis raised him from birth to be evil. End of story.


    It's not known for sure whether Plagueis actually raised him from birth. End of story.


     
  18. COMMANDER76

    COMMANDER76 Jedi Master star 4

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    what are managers and mederators as it pertains to this site???
     
  19. BasherTroll05

    BasherTroll05 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Emos-Edud posted on 3/13/05 5:32pm
    That's funny, a mod breaking the TOS? Who'd a thunk it!

    FYI, you might want to look up the meaning of "delusions of grandeur" before the next time you use it in an attempted bait/troll. Insults should be at least remotely accurate to be effective. However, accurate or not they are against the TOS.

    Good luck!
    [hr][/blockquote]

    Given your response it's a fair question.

    If you need to see the trailer I can PM it to you.
     
  20. IceHawk-181

    IceHawk-181 Jedi Master star 4

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    Why isn't there a stickied copy of the new Lucas Canon rules on this site? There must be one somewhere......


    Refrain from EU responses?


    Darth Bane is C-Level, or Continuity level canon. While Lucas himself did not create Bane, the character exists within the realm of Star Wars until Lucas specifically states otherwise.

    Palpatine's past is unfortunately not known to anyone, perhaps even Lucas himself.

    The only thing that we truly know about Palpatine is that he, and his master, are descendants of Darth Bane's legacy.

    A legacy founded after the Battle of Russan where the Jedi wiped out what they believed to be the last of the Sith.
     
  21. DexVader_22

    DexVader_22 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    if anyone wants a good Palpatine origin story, the best you'll get is probably the dark horse comic that was released about ten issues ago. im not exactly sure which issue it is so if someone has a guide to all the Republic: Clone Wars issues they should definitely post the issue number.

    it dealt primarily with Palpatines rise to power as a politician not as a sith lord. anyway, its a good read and the closest thing you'll get to any light being shed on Palps....
     
  22. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Darth Bane is C-Level, or Continuity level canon. While Lucas himself did not create Bane, the character exists within the realm of Star Wars until Lucas specifically states otherwise.[hr][/blockquote][/b]
    "G-Level," matter of fact, since it comes from one of the novelizations, and Lucas had a direct hand in it.

    Otherwise, spot-on with the rest.
     
  23. Darth Kruel

    Darth Kruel Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't think it's necessary to know Palpatine's origins. He had a mother and a father, a political career and a Sith affliation. Palpatine has two purposes: rule the galaxy and pay the Jedi back for what they did to the Sith a 1,000 years beforehand.
     
  24. IceHawk-181

    IceHawk-181 Jedi Master star 4

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    "Anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered "G" canon."

    "...continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else. " By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. NOVELS, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites...."

    G-Level Canon is actually simply the movies and Lucas himself. This is the original CANON canon, as opposed to the old Canon/Official policy.

    Bane is reprimanded to C-Level unless Lucas mentions him in ROTS or personally writes a story about or mentioning him.


    Seriously, the Canon Policy isn't on this site anywhere?
     
  25. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    There's a revision to that statement Leland made a few weeks later, which applies to this specific case:

    "Are novelisations of the films considered G-level or C-level material?"

    In a nutshell, anything created by the author would be C-level. Anything in the the novels created by George Lucas (whether it comes from unpublished early script versions, unpublished author interviews with George, or George's revisions to the novelization manuscript) would be G-level unless contradicted by the films.

    It gets a little more complicated when something is seen on-screen but not named. So the "shuura fruit" mentioned in the AOTC novel would be G, because you see it in the film, although the author came up with the name. (01-26-04)

    Which would make Darth Bane nominal "G-Level," due to Lucas's personal investiture in his creation.
     
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