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What's the deal with torps and missiles?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Excellence, Nov 10, 2004.

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  1. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    What's the deal with proton torpedoes and concussion missiles? You notice, they're the only two projectile types in all these years of books. Disregarding the creative stuff of Black Fleet (T-33 plasma torps aka heavy ion torps, flechettes, etc) . . . why aren't there more torpedo names, variety?
     
  2. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Largely its because both are recognizable and frankly peopl don't want K or E wings, they want X-wings. Same principles apply with Proton torpedoes.

    In universe, proton torpodoes covers a wide range of ordinance types...its just short hand for one of the two main types of projectile weapons
     
  3. Fingolfin_Noldor

    Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Plasma bombs in The Black Fleet Crisis were observed to pack a lot more punch than Proton torps. Also we observe anti-capital ship CM-6 mounted on K-wings.

    Again a lack of continuity.
     
  4. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    On Black Fleet Crisis' part, not the rest of the EU.
     
  5. Fingolfin_Noldor

    Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    No reason why the rest of the EU should ignore what was written by others. Time and time again are we told the X-wing was superceded by the E-wing and others. Only thing that saves the X-wing from obsolence is continued upgrades that aren't really major till the XJ-wing.
     
  6. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    People want Black Fleet Crisis' stuff to be incorporated, it was ONE book people. Let it go.
     
  7. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Okay, so Black Fleet had ion torpedoes. I'm not comparing to all the Earthian missile names like sidewinder, tomahawk, etc---but since HTTE all there's been are two name types, and I think there's allowed to be more, don't you think? [face_batting]
     
  8. Fingolfin_Noldor

    Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    There were Mag pulse torps. But those disappeared too. One would think the technology was recovered somehow.

    And those Plasma torps were observed to slag a thrustship with one shot.
     
  9. Lord_Darth_Bob

    Lord_Darth_Bob Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Thrustships are rather weak and diminutive compared to the finest of the Imperial Navy; I am not surprised that such technologies were marginal with a larger and more professional force like the Imperials.
     
  10. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    What I'm saying is you might have Vorsknyr, bantha, and Kitten Proton Torpedoes

    It's the difference between ROCKETS and BOMBS

    You can call a Nuclear Missle anything you want but largely its just a nuke to most people.
     
  11. TwiLeksRokMySox

    TwiLeksRokMySox Jedi Youngling star 2

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    People want Black Fleet Crisis' stuff to be incorporated, it was ONE book people. Let it go.


    It was three books, but so was TTT or JAT....should we not include those? Or let's make no reference to the original three X-Wing books. There's no difference. BFC is part of the EU and should be incorporated as such.
     
  12. masterskywalker

    masterskywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The obvious answer is that they're books based on movies and everyone wants to hear about the things they saw in the films in other material...
     
  13. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    [It was three books, but so was TTT or JAT....should we not include those? Or let's make no reference to the original three X-Wing books. There's no difference. BFC is part of the EU and should be incorporated as such.]

    Okay, here's my EU solution

    "The new class ships were hated by everyone and proved to be government pork after all the countless problems and designs lead to a near revolt by the military to go back to old designs. K-wing still means 'a flying piece of junk' to most pilots."
     
  14. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    The obvious answer is that they're books based on movies and everyone wants to hear about the things they saw in the films in other material...

    Masterskywalker, are you saying seeing "proton torpedo" is thrilling for a reader? :p

    How about alternative words, like saber missile or talon torp; I'm just curious why it has to be the same two proton/concussion names for over a decade. :p
     
  15. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Again

    It's the name for the class

    Otherwise its "What's more powerful a Bantha class or a Skywalker class"
     
  16. ATimson

    ATimson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The big problem is that all the launchers and magazines are internal. For good reason, since those can't be easily changed, the Republic would want to standardize within a class what its fighters can carry (else you might end up squadrons mixing types, greatly increasing the necessary parts base, and making the mechanics' lives much more difficult). They wouldn't want to change those partway through a fighter's production life, either--it'd be a bitch to retrofit all the older fighters.

    Alas, ANH gave us X-wings and Y-wings with proton torps, so those were locked down then and there. A-wings (and the Falcon) get concussion missiles, which are different for them. So... dunno when the B-wing got the already-used proton torpedoes (B-wing? if so, I understand why they did it, then), but it's the only thing you can really blame for the lack of originality. :)
     
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