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PT When did Anakin become a Jedi Knight?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by dolphin, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    When Anakin took on Ahsoka as Padawan, we can assume he was no longer himself a Padawan since only Knights and Masters can have understudies. When did this take place? Is there an episode in the TCW series, Clone Wars, where he graduates?

    I also don't recall Obi Wan becoming a Jedi Master although the answer to the Anakin question addresses Obi-Wan since Jedi can become Masters when their Padawans (in this case Anakin) become Knights.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Darthbane2007

    Darthbane2007 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think in the first Clone Wars Cartoon in the third season, Anakin was knighted in the first episode...
     
  3. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    In answer to your question: NO, TCW does not address Anakin's knighting nor Obi-Wan's elevation to Master or to the Council.

    Wild Space, the book written as a tie in to TCW, even has Obi-Wan *not* yet a Council member, which contradicts TCW.
     
  4. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    "Star Wars: Clone Wars" micro-series. Chapter 21.
     
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  5. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yup - in the micro series, but not in TCW (which I believe was the focus of the question).
     
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  6. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    In TCW book Wild Space, at the beginning there's a part that follows the events post AOTC. Now it doesn't show Anakin knighted I believe, but there's a part between Yoda and Obi-Wan who insists Anakin isn't ready to become a Knight, but Yoda tells him to get him ready b/c with the war they'll need more Knights. So I think it happened not long after AOTC
     
  7. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Wild Space also had a timeframe:

    "Seven weeks after the Battle of Geonosis - not quite three weeks after Anakin farewelled without regret his Padawan braid - Dooku's Separatist forces launched a brutal multipronged attack on the Republic."

    So, he was knighted just over 4 weeks into the war.
     
  8. Eryndil

    Eryndil Jedi Knight star 3

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    Apparently none of the Clone Wars era EU material that was produced before the TCW show can be considered canon now. A lot of it has been/is being contradicted by the TV show and screen is considered higher canon than print. In other words, nobody really knows when Anakin was knighted! :confused:
     
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  9. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Sure we do - after he'd been a padawan for years.

    [face_laugh]
     
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  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Dates, yes- but not necessarily the events themselves.
     
  11. Eryndil

    Eryndil Jedi Knight star 3

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    That's true - the events may still be canon, as long as they are not contradicted by TCW. The problem is that future TCW episodes could contradict EU sources that are currently considered canon, so we don't know what will or won't end up as a 'canon event'. It's rather frustrating!
     
  12. Eryndil

    Eryndil Jedi Knight star 3

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    By the way, this is where Leland Chee (SW continuity guy) explains about the Clone Wars timeline. He clarifies that Anakin is already a Knight and Obi-Wan is on the Council by the start of TCW. The series begins "mere months following the Battle of Geonosis" and, as a result, "Many of the dates and events on previously existing EU Clone Wars timelines have been condensed into this period”

    I'm not sure what 'mere months' means but it's got to be hard to fit in a lot of the existing EU under this new timeline.
     
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  13. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Two months seems reasonable- shortly after Grievous's attack began.
     
  14. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Jedi Knight star 4

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    Here you go:


    EDIT: Dammit, it doesn't let me link to a specific time. The scene starts around 11:09.
     
  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 9

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    Is there one with subtitles?
     
  16. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Canon is determined by LucasFilm and they've said that outside the movies, only Clone Wars (TCW) is canon. We can pretend non contradictory events/characters are canon but it's not "legally" so.
     
  17. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    No.

    Films are G-canon; TCW is T-canon; some other things are C-canon, but still canon.

    Unlike Star Trek it's all canon.
     
  18. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ^What Arawn said.

    In any case, he was knighted a few months after AOTC.
     
  19. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    as far as I'm concerned G and T canon = canon. Anything that I can write that could eventually become canon (if published), is not canon. That category includes the EU. But that's my lonesome opinion. :)
     
  20. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Jedi Knight star 4

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    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon
     
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  21. Darth_Kiryan

    Darth_Kiryan Jedi Master star 4

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    was Obi-wan a council member BEFORE Piell's death, or did he take his place AFTER?
     
  22. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Which Piell death? In TCW, I'd say before; I believe he has always been a Council member during TCW and Piell died in TCW (death #2). "Old" canon had him replacing Depa Billaba, whatever year that was.
     
  23. TheRevanchist

    TheRevanchist Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think that it is a big contradiction when does Anakin became a knight.

    He became a knight in clone wars carton and took Ashoka as his padawan in The Clone Wars movie. In the fifth season of The Clone Wars TV Show, Ashola seems to have grown up which should mean that there have passed some time (probably 2 years) since she became Anakin's Padawan (unless Togruta grown up faster). The problem is that in The Revenge of The Sith novelization, Skywalker mentions that he became a knight about a year ago (or was it 10 months).
     
  24. Ahsoka_Tano_11

    Ahsoka_Tano_11 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Here we go, straight from Wookieepedia......

    Knighting

    "Step forward, Padawan. Anakin Skywalker, by the right of the Council, by the will of the Force, dub thee I do… Jedi… Knight of the Republic."
    ―Yoda

    After his heroic actions at the Battle of Praesitlyn and upon returning from the Mission to Vjun, Skywalker was endowed with the title of Jedi Knight, despite the fact that he never went through the traditionalJedi Trials before being Knighted. It was a controversial decision; Kit Fisto and Ki-Adi-Mundi openly and zealously supported him, while Oppo Rancisis and Adi Gallia questioned whether Skywalker was mature enough. But in the end, the decision fell to Yoda, who decided to have him Knighted in a secret ceremony. Skywalker later sent his Padawan braid, which had been ritualistically severed by Yoda, to Amidala as a late devotion gift.
     
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  25. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Was the knighting and the cutting of the braid done with a lightsabre?
     
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