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Clone Wars Where do you rate The Clone Wars in the Saga?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by 07jonesj, Sep 4, 2012.

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  1. GGrievous Jedi Grand Master

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    I would
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  2. Spazmatron Jedi Padawan

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    That also made no sense...
  3. JackG Jedi Grand Master

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    AOTC is better than TCW for me, too. There's been 1600c minutes of TCW and only 120 minutes of AOTC so it's ridiculous to say that it's truly an even fight. ALso there's no Ahsoka in AOTC so that's a bonus.
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  4. Eternal_Hero Jedi Youngling

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    TCW beats AOTC for me. But I tank AOTC at the bottom of the series.
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  5. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    But it does have Hayden Christensen...
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  6. Spazmatron Jedi Padawan

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    And romance which is unbearable to watch
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  7. GGrievous Jedi Grand Master

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    Hayden is not a bad actor. George Lucas is a bad director/writer. ;)

    Even though the romance is cringeworthy, the dialogue is mediocre (something TCW is also guilty of), I would still watch AOTC over any episode of TCW, including Rookies. However, if someone said either watch all three seasons of SW: Clone Wars micro series or AOTC, then I would choose the former.
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  8. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    I've never seen any of his other films, but his acting in Star Wars is pretty bad most of the time IMO. GL's writing is responsible part of the time but not always.
  9. GGrievous Jedi Grand Master

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    It's not just the writing, it's also the directing, which is also very crucial.
  10. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    I don't dispute that, however I still feel his acting is particularly atrocious. And I agree that TCW has moments that are every bit as bad as AOTC. I just also think cumulatively there's much more to love.
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  11. anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of CT, SW Saga and Lucasfilm Ltd

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    His acting in Life as a House, and Shattered Glass, was better. But I thought he played Anakin pretty well.
  12. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    In Star Wars he tends to do moments of strong emotion pretty well but otherwise sounds like a drone IMO.
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  13. Todd the Jedi Mod and Inquisitor of SWTV

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    Frankly, so does Academy Award winning-actress Natalie Portman, some of the time. Mostly in TPM, though.
  14. Lazy Storm Trooper Jedi Master

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    1. OT
    2. CW
    3. PT
    4. Holiday Special
    5. TCW
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  15. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    Guess I'll ask again to see if there's ever an answer...any particular reason the Holiday Special is ranked above TCW? I'm honestly curious if people like the Holiday Special or it's just a rhetorical device to express disdain for TCW. [face_thinking]
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  16. JackG Jedi Grand Master

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    Nope, I think TCW and The Holiday Special are on par. Both are not very good (IMO!) and yet they're both Star Wars.
  17. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    How much of TCW have you watched, @jackg1? I think proportionately TCW wastes much less time on worthless crap than the Holiday Special.
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  18. JackG Jedi Grand Master

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    I've watched all of TCW, Tarkas. I'd say TCW gets to the action quickly, yes. However I don't think that action is always good.
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  19. DM99 Jedi Padawan

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    Hayden is a great Actor. The others are bad!

    Natalie Portman dont play her role in AOTC properly. She plays like Teenager Love, but Anakins and Padmes Love is more mature and full of Lust. Anakin Skywalker is passionate guy. Padme Amidala naberrie Character is not as naiv as Portman plays her. Padme is a clever and smart Senator/politician. A Person which loves Power and always gets what she wants. Portman was playing that character totaly wrong.
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  20. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    I bet if Lucas put the Holiday Special out on DVD, it would sell out... and I wonder, would that make him hate it any less?:p
  21. Dark Lord Tarkas Jedi Master

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    I wouldn't think the action would have to always be good if the proportion of action to, say, disco and Sesame Street-type scenes, is so extreme and opposite. To me, the worst Jedi-swinging-lightsaber scenes of TCW are still lightyears ahead of the best disco and Sesame Street moments of THS.
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  22. GGrievous Jedi Grand Master

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    Frank Oz, Ian, Ewan, Liam, ect, are bad?

    While I agree that Ewan wasn't impressive in AOTC, he was good in TPM and ROTS. Except I know that he struggled with Lucas's dialogue by watching him.
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  23. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    Anakin really needed to be a combo of Luke and Han, TBH.

    Not going to get into a general rant about the makeup/archetypes of the characters in the PT but tl; dr version is: they're boring.
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  24. Lazy Storm Trooper Jedi Master

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    I actually like the Holiday Special.
  25. Todd the Jedi Mod and Inquisitor of SWTV

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    You have to consider that Hayden put a ****load of effort into choreographing the lightsaber duels, at least for ROTS. So he was putting great effort somewhere, if not his acting or desire to read the awkward dialogue. Plus, look at ANH and how awkward or flat a lot of the dialogue is, mostly from Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness. That it's not as noticeable shows how great those actors are at dialogue. With Hayden, his skills are more action-oriented. If he works with a good director/screenwriter, then he can appear at least halfway decent, and we all know Lucas is all about flash and visuals. He can write an amazing story, but he can't do character interaction very well, and therefore the actors have to rely wholly upon themselves.
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